The Songs You Love.....That Most Don't.
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B J Conlee wrote:
The Other Me
Many Paul haters jumped on the "dustbin lid" line in the beginning of this song as being a terrible lyric. Basically it is just a British slang word. But people didn't look at the rest of the lyrics which are great and extremely personal. I always loved this song, Paul's soul-like singing and George Martin's overall great production. A really underrated song imo on a much maligned album. I love "The Other Me" and the title cut "Pipes of Peace" on this album. Another example of the fact that even on somewhat weaker albums Paul usually has 2 or 3 or great hidden gems. "Keep Under Cover" isn't too shabby either.
The Other Me isn't great, but it's one of the better tracks on a generally weak album. My list of songs I love that many disdain is, at least right at the moment:
Maxwell's Silver Hammer
Silly Love Songs (Paul fans love it, critics still put it down decades later)
At the Mercy
Feet in the Clouds
Nod Your Head
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Bruce M. wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
The Other Me
Many Paul haters jumped on the "dustbin lid" line in the beginning of this song as being a terrible lyric. Basically it is just a British slang word. But people didn't look at the rest of the lyrics which are great and extremely personal. I always loved this song, Paul's soul-like singing and George Martin's overall great production. A really underrated song imo on a much maligned album. I love "The Other Me" and the title cut "Pipes of Peace" on this album. Another example of the fact that even on somewhat weaker albums Paul usually has 2 or 3 or great hidden gems. "Keep Under Cover" isn't too shabby either.
The Other Me isn't great, but it's one of the better tracks on a generally weak album. My list of songs I love that many disdain is, at least right at the moment:
Maxwell's Silver Hammer
Silly Love Songs (Paul fans love it, critics still put it down decades later)
At the Mercy
Feet in the Clouds
Nod Your Head
Even critics of "Silly Love Songs" admit it has a great bass line and the harmonies are excellent.
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Back on My Feet, the flip side of Once Upon a Lomg Ago
Footprints and Angry, both off Press to Play
Tiny Bubbles
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John Mackintosh wrote:
Back on My Feet, the flip side of Once Upon a Lomg Ago
Footprints and Angry, both off Press to Play
Tiny Bubbles
Good choices John, I love Footprints (one of my favs on Press to Play) and I always thought Tiny Bubbles was a "guilty pleasure" on Driving Rain. And "Back on My Feet" should have made it on the original "Flowers in the Dirt" album.
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B J Conlee wrote:
John Mackintosh wrote:
Back on My Feet, the flip side of Once Upon a Lomg Ago
Footprints and Angry, both off Press to Play
Tiny Bubbles
Good choices John, I love Footprints (one of my favs on Press to Play)
Mine too although I've always felt that an arrangement similar to Waterfalls would have suited Footprints better. The Press To Play version is just a little too cluttered where as a more minimilist approach would have been more affective.
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Bruce M. wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
The Other Me
Many Paul haters jumped on the "dustbin lid" line in the beginning of this song as being a terrible lyric. Basically it is just a British slang word. But people didn't look at the rest of the lyrics which are great and extremely personal. I always loved this song, Paul's soul-like singing and George Martin's overall great production. A really underrated song imo on a much maligned album. I love "The Other Me" and the title cut "Pipes of Peace" on this album. Another example of the fact that even on somewhat weaker albums Paul usually has 2 or 3 or great hidden gems. "Keep Under Cover" isn't too shabby either.
The Other Me isn't great, but it's one of the better tracks on a generally weak album. My list of songs I love that many disdain is, at least right at the moment:
Maxwell's Silver Hammer
Silly Love Songs (Paul fans love it, critics still put it down decades later)
At the Mercy
Feet in the Clouds
Nod Your Head
Hey Bruce...I like all of your choices too. I remember getting my first new car (VW Beatle) and loving my 8 Track that I had installed. What a sound in such a small car. It was when Abbey Road had just been released. I always liked "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" because it was yet another "wacky" Paul song. I know a lot of critics hated the song but I liked it because it was so different. Of course I always loved the last half of Abbey Road.
I also liked "At the Mercy" which I always wished had gone a little longer. "Feet in the Clouds" on MAF really grew with me also. I know it was a little repetitious in parts but I liked it. "Nod Your Head" on the end of MAF took longer for me to like but it was actually "you" that helped me to appreciate it more as a great follow up to "The End of the End" which is one of my favorites on MAF.
Have you seen the last review on McCartney 3? Really sounds promising as this critic seems very realistic and not just a fanboy type. Take a look at my last post on the McCartney 3 Page if you haven't seen it.
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B J Conlee wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
The Other Me
Many Paul haters jumped on the "dustbin lid" line in the beginning of this song as being a terrible lyric. Basically it is just a British slang word. But people didn't look at the rest of the lyrics which are great and extremely personal. I always loved this song, Paul's soul-like singing and George Martin's overall great production. A really underrated song imo on a much maligned album. I love "The Other Me" and the title cut "Pipes of Peace" on this album. Another example of the fact that even on somewhat weaker albums Paul usually has 2 or 3 or great hidden gems. "Keep Under Cover" isn't too shabby either.
The Other Me isn't great, but it's one of the better tracks on a generally weak album. My list of songs I love that many disdain is, at least right at the moment:
Maxwell's Silver Hammer
Silly Love Songs (Paul fans love it, critics still put it down decades later)
At the Mercy
Feet in the Clouds
Nod Your Head
Hey Bruce...I like all of your choices too. I remember getting my first new car (VW Beatle) and loving my 8 Track that I had installed. What a sound in such a small car. It was when Abbey Road had just been released. I always liked "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" because it was yet another "wacky" Paul song. I know a lot of critics hated the song but I liked it because it was so different. Of course I always loved the last half of Abbey Road.
I also liked "At the Mercy" which I always wished had gone a little longer. "Feet in the Clouds" on MAF really grew with me also. I know it was a little repetitious in parts but I liked it. "Nod Your Head" on the end of MAF took longer for me to like but it was actually "you" that helped me to appreciate it more as a great follow up to "The End of the End" which is one of my favorites on MAF.
Have you seen the last review on McCartney 3? Really sounds promising as this critic seems very realistic and not just a fanboy type. Take a look at my last post on the McCartney 3 Page if you haven't seen it.
I've seen a bunch of review of McCartney III. Sounds promising, with a few tracks I probably won't love. I've learned the hard way I need to sit with an album for a while before I know what I really think of it.
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Bruce M. wrote:
I've learned the hard way I need to sit with an album for a while before I know what I really think of it.
That's so true and from experience I have found the albums that take longer to get into are the albums that have more depth to them and will have longer lasting appeal. I certainly think that some albums and individual songs by Paul can take a few listens to truly appreciate.
I still have this crystal clear memory of hearing a new Wings single on the radio for the very first time and being so disappointed. I thought it sounded so tuneless and disjointed and I wasn'y overly impressed when I caught it on the radio a few days later either. But I still went out and bought it of course, and following a few plays,it suddenly clicked,I'd got it. After that, I just couldn't undestand why I hadn't appreciated how catchy it was from the very beginning. The single in question was Listen To What The Man Said.
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A very good Maccaboard friend of mine does not like this song and I really love everything about it, especially the video!!! We probably argue about this one the most... It is such a happy song. I've also dreamt that I could go flying in a dream so maybe that has something to do with it
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Paul songs that are underrated, not given their due fully (I might have repeated some) :
C Moon, Honey Pie, Wild Honey Pie, My Little Koala, Say Say Say, I'll Give You a Ring, Ballroom Dancing, Morris Moose and the Grey Goose, Rough Ride, Big Barn Bed, Vintage Clothes, Rinse the Raindrops, One More Kiss, The Other Me, Mumbo, Get It, So Bad, Fuh You, Ebony and Ivory, Motor of Love, Name and Address, Let me Roll It, The Pound is Sinking, What's That You're Doing, Golden Earth Girl, London Town, Every Night, From a Lover to a Friend, Mistress and Maid, Sweet Sweet Memories, Dear Friend, Country Dreamer, That Would Be Something, Arrow Through Me, Wild Life, Cafe on the Left Bank, Love In Song, Warm and Beautiful
Red Rose Speedway Medley, Young Boy, Tomorrow, Mama Miss America, Get on the Right Thing, Heart of the Country, Sally G., Daytime/Night time Suffering
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There would be too many to list if I mentioned all the songs I think are merely underappreciated. So I'll list only the songs that I like, but I've seen get actively criticized.
Bip Bop
Mumbo
You Gave Me the Answer
Famous Groupies
Motor of Love
Biker Like an Icon
She's Given Up Talking
Driving Rain
Fuh You (although I agree with those who don't like the title)
If we're talking about albums as a whole, I like Wild Life, McCartney II, Press to Play, and Driving Rain. The only album that I think deserves the criticism it gets is Pipes of Peace, and even that one I have a sentimental soft spot for.
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B J Conlee wrote:
Bruce M. wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
The Other Me
Many Paul haters jumped on the "dustbin lid" line in the beginning of this song as being a terrible lyric. Basically it is just a British slang word. But people didn't look at the rest of the lyrics which are great and extremely personal. I always loved this song, Paul's soul-like singing and George Martin's overall great production. A really underrated song imo on a much maligned album. I love "The Other Me" and the title cut "Pipes of Peace" on this album. Another example of the fact that even on somewhat weaker albums Paul usually has 2 or 3 or great hidden gems. "Keep Under Cover" isn't too shabby either.
The Other Me isn't great, but it's one of the better tracks on a generally weak album. My list of songs I love that many disdain is, at least right at the moment:
Maxwell's Silver Hammer
Silly Love Songs (Paul fans love it, critics still put it down decades later)
At the Mercy
Feet in the Clouds
Nod Your Head
Hey Bruce...I like all of your choices too. I remember getting my first new car (VW Beatle) and loving my 8 Track that I had installed. What a sound in such a small car. It was when Abbey Road had just been released. I always liked "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" because it was yet another "wacky" Paul song. I know a lot of critics hated the song but I liked it because it was so different. Of course I always loved the last half of Abbey Road.
I also liked "At the Mercy" which I always wished had gone a little longer. "Feet in the Clouds" on MAF really grew with me also. I know it was a little repetitious in parts but I liked it. "Nod Your Head" on the end of MAF took longer for me to like but it was actually "you" that helped me to appreciate it more as a great follow up to "The End of the End" which is one of my favorites on MAF.
Have you seen the last review on McCartney 3? Really sounds promising as this critic seems very realistic and not just a fanboy type. Take a look at my last post on the McCartney 3 Page if you haven't seen it.
I don't think people dismissed "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" because it was yet another wacky Paul song, it was because Abbey Road was a majestice musical achievment....except for "....Hammer". It just didn't fit. It kind of ruined the overall impression the album was creating/making....culminating in the musical brilliance of side two. Moreover, it's the first song on the album by Paul. It had the misfortune of following the terrific one/two punch of Lennon's "Come Together" and George's magnificent "Something". The album could have had a very strong one, two, three punch opening had McCartney's "Oh Darling" followed those two excellent songs. I would have imagined Paul would have wanted that, to stroke his ego, to not be so overshadowed by John and George....to not have his first song on the album be such a weak offering. But ...we get "...Hammer". Perhaps had it followed "Oh Darling" it might not have stuck out so much for its nonsense. I actually think Ringo's song should have preceded it also. We could have had each of the four Beatles deliver a song....all different from each other, but all strong offerings, demonstrating the excellence of the band. Then...stick "...Hamer" in before the heavy "I Want You...She's So Heavy". That contrast might have worked...or maybe just leave "...Hammer" off the album. The album length still would have been about 45 minutes, quite long for that period time on vinyl, I would have thought George Martin would have intervened on the sequencing...or talked Paul out of the whole thing. Alas, I finally decided to make a copy of the album.....minus that song and it all wroks out very nice for me. I really don't miss it. But that's just me.
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Updating this thread a bit, I would add "Deep Deep Feeling".
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
Updating this thread a bit, I would add "Deep Deep Feeling".
Heh. One of very few Paul songs I would be delighted to never, ever hear again. But then my list of those includes several fan favorites, so I guess I'm just a troublemaker.
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Bruce M. wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
Updating this thread a bit, I would add "Deep Deep Feeling".
Heh. One of very few Paul songs I would be delighted to never, ever hear again. But then my list of those includes several fan favorites, so I guess I'm just a troublemaker.
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Bruce M. wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
Updating this thread a bit, I would add "Deep Deep Feeling".
Heh. One of very few Paul songs I would be delighted to never, ever hear again. But then my list of those includes several fan favorites, so I guess I'm just a troublemaker.
No problem Bruce. I absolutely hate "Bip Bop" and " Temporary Secretary" which I have mentioned several times but others love those songs, differences make the world go round.
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There are so many of those. Mainly Fireman music and Paul’s classical music and all of he bonus songs which don’t have a proper home on an album or he gave them to other people.
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I would add Your Way, from Driving Rain, to my list. I don't think I've seen any dislike for this song, but it never seems to get mentioned at all. I think it's a very beautiful, sweet, little song.
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McCall wrote:
I would add Your Way, from Driving Rain, to my list. I don't think I've seen any dislike for this song, but it never seems to get mentioned at all. I think it's a very beautiful, sweet, little song.
I've never really been a fan of that album and I probably have played the CD no more than twice. Didn't even remember that song. It was okay, but one that Paul probably knocked out in about a half hour. Didn't dislike it, it just didn't "blow my dress up" as they say!
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Summer's Day Song is definitely in my top 10 Paul songs of the last 50 years although I'm not sure whether other fans don't like it or if they simply don't (think to) remember it? Either way it tends to get overlooked in favour of (the equally beautiful) Waterfalls or (the annoying) Coming Up & Temporary Secretary tracks.