McCartney 3, 2, 1, a new documentary series
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Nancy R wrote:
B J, Yankeefan is sadly right.
I've only watched 2 episodes so far. Will probably spread it out and savor it rather than binging the rest in one day!
Good plan, this way you have something to look forward to for a few days -lol. I will clarify my point for everyone. Like his setlist, I did not expect him to totally forget his Beatle past in this documentary. I understand it is what made him famous and to ignore it even after 50 years is not realistic. That being said, I wish he had a lot more balance of his total career when doing something like this documentary. I truly wonder if he knows that people really are fans of his solo work and interested in it. Oh well -lol
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I enjoyed the series and hope there is a second season as there is still so much to cover. There were things discussed that I didn't know/hadn't heard before.
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I am watching it again and tick off.
Endeavor Content involved in this MPL production.
Allen Klein lives. I hate Endeavor!
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Having seen the whole series, this detailed review in Variety correctly highlights and describes 10 informative moments in the conversations about the songs. Also, the reviewer mentions that since over 15 hours were filmed, he hopes a sequel might happen that deals with Wings and Paul's solo career.
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joyce wrote:
Having seen the whole series, this detailed review in Variety correctly highlights and describes 10 informative moments in the conversations about the songs. Also, the reviewer mentions that since over 15 hours were filmed, he hopes a sequel might happen that deals with Wings and Paul's solo career.
Saying only a few minutes were spent on Wings/Solo is all I needed to know, will probably pass on this documentary. I am looking forward to the "Get Back" documentary because from the clips I have seen it looks like it will be more fun than the "Let It Be" movie.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
joyce wrote:
Having seen the whole series, this detailed review in Variety correctly highlights and describes 10 informative moments in the conversations about the songs. Also, the reviewer mentions that since over 15 hours were filmed, he hopes a sequel might happen that deals with Wings and Paul's solo career.
Saying only a few minutes were spent on Wings/Solo is all I needed to know, will probably pass on this documentary. I am looking forward to the "Get Back" documentary because from the clips I have seen it looks like it will be more fun than the "Let It Be" movie.
You should watch it! I've only seen the first 4 episodes, but they mess with the soundboard and you get to hear stuff isolated that you could never hear just listening to the song, even with headphones. And they played a bit of an alternate version of Tomorrow Never Knows. It's not just all Macca songs.
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Nancy R wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
joyce wrote:
Having seen the whole series, this detailed review in Variety correctly highlights and describes 10 informative moments in the conversations about the songs. Also, the reviewer mentions that since over 15 hours were filmed, he hopes a sequel might happen that deals with Wings and Paul's solo career.
Saying only a few minutes were spent on Wings/Solo is all I needed to know, will probably pass on this documentary. I am looking forward to the "Get Back" documentary because from the clips I have seen it looks like it will be more fun than the "Let It Be" movie.
You should watch it! I've only seen the first 4 episodes, but they mess with the soundboard and you get to hear stuff isolated that you could never hear just listening to the song, even with headphones. And they played a bit of an alternate version of Tomorrow Never Knows. It's not just all Macca songs.
the whole thing with them playing with the volume of all the tracks was the best thing about it. I loved them listening to Maybe I'm Amazed.
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I loved hearing them/seeing them play songs in concert that I was unaware they had played. Would love another album of songs recorded live throughout their career. They sounded great. When watching 3, 2,1, George's song "I Me Mine" came to mind. Paul has this tendency to make everything about him. He decided this and that. Just about everything about "A Day In The Life" was his decision!! Really Paul??? Rubin stoked Paul's ego far too much! But Paul is a genius.... on bass and is about the most melodic player in the world. No doubt about it.
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I watched it all last night with a fellow fan. We both enjoyed it. I was not disappointed, nor surprised, that it would be Beatle-heavy. Some of the same stories, but a few bits I learned for the first time. I'd watch more. I just love watching him play with the mix and listening to these songs and tracks. You can see on certain songs the excitement he gets when hearing it, especially isolated tracks.
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Anybody watching this 6 part series? It;s excellent
I couldn;t find a thread...
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Don’t have Hulu, so if this comes out on another medium like You Tube, I’m hoping someone will post it! There’s a lot of adverts that I’ve heard. It sounds really good!
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love2travel wrote:
Don’t have Hulu, so if this comes out on another medium like You Tube, I’m hoping someone will post it! There’s a lot of adverts that I’ve heard. It sounds really good!
Get a 1-month free subscription, then cancel! That's what I did/am doing.
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As far as a "SEQUEL" To the McCartney 3,2,1 Documentary...I would have an even greater FEAR that it would probably be done the wrong way. If it does happen (A SEQUEL that spotlights Paul's Post Beatles' Career) here is what I would predict might happen (hopefully I'm wrong!).
In my opinion, it would be "too easy" for the producers (and maybe even Paul) to take the easy way out and go with obvious successes of his Wings and Solo Career. Here's what could happen:
First of all, the Sequel would focus on his 70's Hits. If it is Rick Rubin again, I could easily see Rick and Paul discussing the obvious songs like Maybe I'm Amazed, Uncle Albert, LIve and Let Die, My Love, LIsten to What the Man Said, Silly Love Songs, Let 'm In and maybe With a LIttle Luck. One reason I'm fearful is that I'm not sure that Rick Rubin is that knowledgable on Paul's Solo stuff. Not saying this is the case but I think Rick has been too busy with his own projects and producing other artists over the years. He'll know the big hits but maybe not much else.
Secondly and when this SEQUEL get into the 80's, I could see Rick leading the discussion about Paul's famous collaborations with Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson. For example, Instead of focusing on the "real" great songs on Tug of War, I can see this section being all about Ebony and Ivory and Say Say Say. And of course if they choose to focus on Stevie and Michael, the next logical thing in this Documentary is to move onto more current times and discuss Paul's success of working with Kanye West and Rihanna with their quasi-hit FourFive Seconds. I'm still trying to figure out what FourFive Seconds was about??
I will continue with my next post with How I think this SEQUEL should be done.
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(Continued from my last post above)
Sadly if the SEQUEL goes like I predicted above, it would be largely a waste of time for a hard core fan like me.
Here's the way I would like to see McCarteny 3,2,1 (2nd HALF) Presented:
Starting wiht the 80's, I would start a discussion with Paul on the whole Album of Tug of War. I would ask questions and play snippets of great Tug of War songs like Wanderlust, The Pound is Sinking, Somebody Who Cares, Take It Away etc. That could could lead into Pipes of Peace (the song) and the great wartime Video of Pipes of Peace.
My next question for Paul would be about the failure of Press to Play and Broad Street in the mid-80's. I would talk about his writing sessions with Eric Stewart and play snippets of great songs like Footprints and Stranglehold. I would even ask him about a great unreleased song like "Yvonne the One" and how it was left off Press to Play.
You could briefly go back to the end of the 70's, and ask Paul about the relative failure of Back to the Egg and why. Play snippets of Getting Closer, Arrow Through Me and even a great hidden gem like Winter Rose/Love Awake.
Next you can get into his relationship and writing with Elvis Costello. Ask if he ever considered doing a whole album of just Paul and Elvis Costello (bringing up all the demo's he did with Elvis and later putting them on a 2nd Disc on the Flowers in the Dirt Remaster)
After that you could ask about how he dealt with the Death of his soulmate (Linda) during Flaming Pie. Again, they could play snippets of great songs from Flaming Pie like Beautiful Night, Somedays, Young Boy, LIttle Willow etc.
Ask Paul about the making of Run Devil Run and playing special shows with that great Run Devil Run Band (including David Gilmour).
Going into the 2000's, you could ask Paul about the tensions of working with Nigel Godrich during the Chaos and Creation album. Similar to an earlier question, you could ask how he could leave songs like Summer of 59 and This Loving Game off the album.
You could ask about his remembrances of the follow up Album called Memory Almost Full and about the personal songs on Memory Almost Full like The End of the End, That Was Me, Ever Present Past and a great "extra" song like "Why So blue".
Finally and getting into the 2010's to current times, you could ask about his recollections on the "New" Album (Songs like Early Days), Egypt Station and his latest... McCartney 3. It would be easy to have Paul compare the 3 McCartney DIY albums including the last one in 2020.
So many questions but if this "2nd half" of McCartney 3,2,1 was handled the right way, it could be even more fascinating than Part 1 (more about the Beatle Years) because people in general know so little about his Post Beatle Career with the possible exception of the 70s Decade. The key I believe would be Rick Rubin or whichever host would be leading the discussion. In my opinion, it would have to be someone with great knowledge of Paul McCartney musicially from 1970 to 2020. That's like 50 plus years which is far longer than Paul's one Decade with the Beatles. Thanks
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^ B J, I couldn't even read the 2nd half of your pessimistic posts. First off, they already discussed Maybe I'm Amazed in episode 5, I believe, which I watched yesterday. Today will watch the last episode.
You have every right to be pessimistic, but I am realistic about all this. It is not going to happen the way you would want. I take what I can get from Paul and am happy to have it. Que sera sera!
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Nancy R wrote:
^ B J, I couldn't even read the 2nd half of your pessimistic posts. First off, they already discussed Maybe I'm Amazed in episode 5, I believe, which I watched yesterday. Today will watch the last episode.
You have every right to be pessimistic, but I am realistic about all this. It is not going to happen the way you would want. I take what I can get from Paul and am happy to have it. Que sera sera!
True...take what you can get. I was against this being all about the Beatles but it was cool to see Paul react the way he did to the somgs. It was a good series. And every "hard core" fan or just mega fans or just Macca fans will not all have the same song choices. Some I've heard mentioned may be close to the bottom of another's list.
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Was it just me? But between Paul and Rick, they couldn't quite pinpoint when Paul felt comfrortable enough to play Beatles songs live?
Pretty sure it didn't happen until the great Wings Over Amercia.
You'd think they'd both know that.
Someone will tell me if I am wrong.
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Nancy R wrote:
^ B J, I couldn't even read the 2nd half of your pessimistic posts. First off, they already discussed Maybe I'm Amazed in episode 5, I believe, which I watched yesterday. Today will watch the last episode.
You have every right to be pessimistic, but I am realistic about all this. It is not going to happen the way you would want. I take what I can get from Paul and am happy to have it. Que sera sera!
They discussed Maybe I'm Amazed and Live and Let Die.... and then later discussed Waterfalls, which isn't the greatest known track for many. That was surprising. I remember that song well, cos back in the day it was released as the second single from McCartney 2. I loved listening to the bit on Waterfalls. That was great. A wonderful song.
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oobu24 wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
^ B J, I couldn't even read the 2nd half of your pessimistic posts. First off, they already discussed Maybe I'm Amazed in episode 5, I believe, which I watched yesterday. Today will watch the last episode.
You have every right to be pessimistic, but I am realistic about all this. It is not going to happen the way you would want. I take what I can get from Paul and am happy to have it. Que sera sera!
True...take what you can get. I was against this being all about the Beatles but it was cool to see Paul react the way he did to the somgs. It was a good series. And every "hard core" fan or just mega fans or just Macca fans will not all have the same song choices. Some I've heard mentioned may be close to the bottom of another's list.
It was wonderful.... Let's hope for more... it was a great special. I'll take everything I can get.
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Nancy R wrote:
^ B J, I couldn't even read the 2nd half of your pessimistic posts. First off, they already discussed Maybe I'm Amazed in episode 5, I believe, which I watched yesterday. Today will watch the last episode.
You have every right to be pessimistic, but I am realistic about all this. It is not going to happen the way you would want. I take what I can get from Paul and am happy to have it. Que sera sera!
Nancy
As always, I appreciate your comment but personally I don't think I'm being pessimistic. i just want a "possible" 2nd half Sequel to this Series to go as good and interesting as possible. And yes, I have Hulu and have watched this Documentary. I saw the Episodes on Maybe I'm Amazed as well as Waterfalls, Band on the Run etc. They were some of the best bits imho. One thing I greatly admire about Paul is his honesty. If he's asked the right questions (and that's a big if) he would give good honest answers imo. As a big Post Beatles Paul fan, I don't want the "emphasis" on a 2nd Half Sequel to be about Paul's collaborations with high profile artists like Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson and even Kanye West. Hopefully, you would want discussions to also be about projects, albums that didn't go well. You would hope the other moderator would point out that even those projects, albums that didn't turn out commercially "successful" had some wonderful and great songs/music on them. Get Paul talking about the good stuff on Back to the Egg, Press to Play, Broad Street etc. I wouldn't mind a question or two on the big hits like Silly Love Songs or Ebony and Ivory but everybody already knows about those big winners. In all honesty, some of the "huge" Singles like E&I, Say Say Say, Silly Love Songs in general put Paul on a quick "down path" for a while. People/Consumers are fickle and get tired of hearing the same songs on the radio all the time. Hence, that's what happened to Back to the Egg and later with Broad Street and Press to Play. On a Docu-Series like McCartney 3, 2, 1... I would think the ordinary public would be far more interested in things that weren't successful and didn't go nearly as well as planned. Another thing I love about Paul's entire music career is his "resiliance". When Paul was having his bad commercial streak on the Charts in the mid 80's (Broad Street and Press to Play) he didn't pout and go home. He continued working and writing music as hard as he could. He kept on trying. He started working and collaborating with other newer artists like Eric Stewart and Elvis Costello. That brought out (again my opinion only) some of his best "hidden gems" in his career. That is what I hope people in general would realize from a Documentary like this. He was far more than just Silly Love Songs and My Love, That is what I hope a Docu-Series like this would do for Paul. It is another reason he needs an Updated Compilation like I've been recently preaching.
The Beatles music is so universal that it isn't surprising that the reviews are relatively very good. But even a song like "Baby's In Black" (one of their admitted 2nd tier songs) went down very well in this docu-series because people find the 2nd tier songs so interesting.
Thanks and sorry for my tirade yesterday.