New in the Charts Thread
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Yeah, I think his promotion has been pretty good (even if the Australian media pretty much ignored him). Lots of concentrated publicity, particularly in the U.S. Hit that market hard enough. Not sure what else he could've done on that front, except maybe twerk in front of that guy from Growing Pain's son or ensure his minder's allowed him to be snapped sleeping by some Brazilian 'model'. Or get his bodyguards to carry him up the Great Wall of China. Might have been best to keep the Kisses on the Bottom album at bay until after New and deferred from touring until it was on the back of the new NEW album. That certainly would've helped sales.
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Paul McCartney is on music since the early sixties. I remember people saying about Backstreet Boys and all the phenom behind it. It really was a phenom, but I can´t even tell you about the band anymore. The same thing is gonna happen to Bieber, Perry, Spears, Rihanna etc. I can bet! Paul McCartney (and other greats like Elton, Jagger, Sting...) still making awesome music. He is a 71 man with crying fans of all ages. Out There tour was number 1 leaving these pseudo-artists behind him. Know why? When it comes to pay big money people want to see a real artist, the greater! Paul McCartney can sell out stadium in any country in the world. No Bieber can do that. Maybe the Stones and U2, but there´s a difference. Most people go to see U2 for what the show is (big production) and less to hear the music. Paul and Rolling Stones play to millions who wants to hear their music and some to see their legends. But there´s a difference: McCartney concerts has 8 year old together with 70 year old, no one can do that.
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dcshark:
Not sure how charting #3 for NEW is a disaster. It shows how strong a fan base he has. He's never going to appeal to the younger record buyer. If it happens it?s because a parent or grandparent has played his music to him/her. If it had come in at #96 then I could understand, but not #3. If I remember correctly Paul's manager anticipated releasing the CD in the first quarter of 2013. Hence the tour name Out There. Then we heard rumors that Paul wasn't happy with the vocals and that delayed the release of New. Glad he chose to fix whatever was wrong. It's a fantastic record. As for promotions: He played: iHeartRadio Festival Live Twitter Q&A Jimmel Kimmel Free gig in Times Square & Covent Garden & Jimmy Kimmel London CD signing event BBC Maida Vale and he is on the cover of Rolling Stone It seems he covered all the bases. If it had been released in March or even April as originally planned it would have perfect timing for the South American and US/Canadian dates in the summer. Will the Japanese concerts translate into sales for NEW in Japan? It will be interesting to see if it bumps up in December for the Christmas sales. Just enjoy NEW
Just sayin but in the UK albums crash in to the top 5 with alarming regularity it doesnt take many sales to crack that nut nowadays over here,thats the reason that for me and i'd wager good money ALL artists and their labels look at the longevity of an album (not just NEW,all albums),sure a nice high figure is nice for bragging rights but in the grand scheme of things is meaningless if its sold so badly that its all but out the chart just 4 weeks later as NEW seems likely to do.
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hengirl:
dcshark:
Not sure how charting #3 for NEW is a disaster. It shows how strong a fan base he has. He's never going to appeal to the younger record buyer. If it happens it?s because a parent or grandparent has played his music to him/her. If it had come in at #96 then I could understand, but not #3. If I remember correctly Paul's manager anticipated releasing the CD in the first quarter of 2013. Hence the tour name Out There. Then we heard rumors that Paul wasn't happy with the vocals and that delayed the release of New. Glad he chose to fix whatever was wrong. It's a fantastic record. As for promotions: He played: iHeartRadio Festival Live Twitter Q&A Jimmel Kimmel Free gig in Times Square & Covent Garden & Jimmy Kimmel London CD signing event BBC Maida Vale and he is on the cover of Rolling Stone It seems he covered all the bases. If it had been released in March or even April as originally planned it would have perfect timing for the South American and US/Canadian dates in the summer. Will the Japanese concerts translate into sales for NEW in Japan? It will be interesting to see if it bumps up in December for the Christmas sales. Just enjoy NEW
Just sayin but in the UK albums crash in to the top 5 with alarming regularity it doesnt take many sales to crack that nut nowadays over here,thats the reason that for me and i'd wager good money ALL artists and their labels look at the longevity of an album (not just NEW,all albums),sure a nice high figure is nice for bragging rights but in the grand scheme of things is meaningless if its sold so badly that its all but out the chart just 4 weeks later as NEW seems likely to do.
You're absolutly right hengirl...here are some figures from the archives backing your Point: WEEKS IN THE BILLBOARD TOP 40 : WEEKS IN UK TOP 100: McCartney 20. 32 RAM. 28. 24 Wild Life. 10. 9 Red Rose. 16. 16 Band on. 40. 124 Venus and Mars 17. 29 Speed of Sound. 27. 35 London Town. 16. 23 Back to the egg. 11. 15 McCartney 2. 12. 18 Tug of war. 18. 27 Pipes. 12. 23 Press. 5. 6 Flowers. 6. 21 Off the ground. 2. 4 ......... NEW. 4. 5 (if NEW Drops Out next week from 96)
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SusyLuvsPaul:
I meant to say this on this thread, and placed it on the wrong one: in reply to R Martinez, I can and will listen to an entire CD, especially "New," I might skip a couple songs like "On My Way To Work" sometimes and "Scared" sometimes, on "New." It's strange-- you can listen through headphones, fall asleep a little while, awaken and be on another song realizing you missed a few and didn't hear them at all, even though they were playing in your head and through the headphones while you dozed off. I like to listen to "New" late at night in bed. Macca music makes a zippy tantalizing end to the evening
I suspect I am a lot older than you! Ha ha! It doesn't take anything for me to go to sleep. ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....
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Nancy R:
Where is the album itself right now on the charts in the U.S.?
We'll know tomorrow, when Billboard publishes the new chart, but probably around #50, as I mentioned several posts ago. Still #40 as of the current week's chart.
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favoritething:
"Queenie Eye" is still getting a couple of plays a day at my Triple A, WXPN. I also heard it in a restaurant up in Vermont a few days ago! It wasn't a conventional radio station, but something without commercials or announcers, possibly a Muzak-type service? Anyway, it sounded great! And according to HitsDailyDouble, the album "New" will be about #50, which isn't a bad drop-off from #40, so maybe it will level out a little into the holiday season. And it could help sales a bit if critics mention it in their year-end best lists.
They're playing 'Queenie Eye' tons on the hip, alternative stations here in Boston. IMO, this song definitely has a contemporary feel. This should have been the promo single, not 'New' which sounds very retro.
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Nancy R:
Plus he was on the cover of MOJO magazine and there is now a special Paul McCartney Rolling Stone issue out (40th Anniversary) And, you left out the video interview he did in London with the small audience (young English guy interviewed him) Plus: Absolute Radio interview with Geoff Lloyd Jimmy Fallon Show NYC High School concert Later With Jools Holland Graham Norton Show He was a busy boy!
Thanks, Nancy I knew I missed a few things
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I don't agree with those here, who have been describing NEW as a commercial failure. As to why it hasn't done better than it has, a few possible reasons. His voice doesn't have that clear lush tenor tone it had up until say around the late nineties. This turns off the casual fan, or certain people, this definitely costs him among certain segments of the public. I think possibly the A List of promotion people has been split doing double duty, in addition to the New album and Beatles BBC 2, I strongly suspect several more major releases are in the pipleline for the Beatles 50th Anniversary in America, depleting and spreading thin the promo people and the resources. He has released 25 studio albums, while New is somewhat different than other McCartney albums, it has a lot of aspects that remind one of MAF, Chaos, Electric Arguments, so to many older fans who occasionally pick up a new Macca album, they may have already bought Chaos, or MAF or Electric Arguments, and heard the Best album since Band on the run or Abbey Road hype, and they don't feel compelled to buy every album. Lots of mistakes by the promo people, they released the album at a tough time against tough competition, when easier less competitive release windows existed. All the tv and impromptu concerts took place before release, once it came out, McCartney did very little with additional appearances or interviews. Japan is on the other side of the world, and very little of McCartney mania over there has been seen on video in the USA, Europe and elsewhere. McCartney releases so many albums people get confused. McCartney's people didin't press hard enough to make sure Starbucks would be featuring the album on release day, for MAF in 2007, this created an additional 80,000 sales the first week. New the lead single had no official video, an almost incomprehensible mistake. To this day the vinyl isin't available, older classic artists like McCartney pick up a significant minority of their sales through vinyl, its been out a month still not one vinyl sale helping the totals. No significant traditional advertising in Rolling Stone, Uncut, Mojo, USA televison, Uk television, only advertising on youtube and modern outlets ignoring most of McCartney's traditional fanbase McCartney himself made a lot of appearnces prior to release, but his promo people seem to have done very poorly in their decision making On the positive side, McCartney should get a sales bump in Japan and the surrounding countries, and shoot past 400K in sales soon, with momentum towards half a million. I suspect huge Beatles advertising for as yet unnamed new releases will sideline any push on NEW for several months beginning early next year, I wouldn't be surprised if his tour either augments the Beatles releases or gets delayed in the USA and Europe till later next year. I believe the Beatles American Anniversary is around February so I would expect a MCCartney tour no sooner than June or July, unless they think it will boost both the Beatle and solo releases
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He was on the cover of Rolling Stone and Mojo, so that's pretty good advertising, I think! Not bad to get on the cover of Rolling Stone again less than two years after the last time. True that Starbucks could have done more, but they're not doing much for any music artist these days.
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Nancy R:
Where is the album itself right now on the charts in the U.S.?
We'll know tomorrow, when Billboard publishes the new chart, but probably around #50, as I mentioned several posts ago. Still #40 as of the current week's chart.
HitsDailyDouble has it at #41 this week. They don't always quite synch with Billboard, but this suggests it will remain in the top 50. http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
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Bruce M.:
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Nancy R:
Where is the album itself right now on the charts in the U.S.?
We'll know tomorrow, when Billboard publishes the new chart, but probably around #50, as I mentioned several posts ago. Still #40 as of the current week's chart.
HitsDailyDouble has it at #41 this week. They don't always quite synch with Billboard, but this suggests it will remain in the top 50. http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
Well if Daily Double has him at 41, here's hoping his promo team dug in deep and he stays at 40 or goes to 39, I know its unlikely but so were the Beatles. I think big Beatles releases for the USA 50 Anniversary will roll out around Feb? when did they go number one in the USA, and when did they first do Sullivan, will they feel beholden to do the release right in sync with the Anniversary of Sullivan or will anytime in 2014 be sufficient? Its an important question, because if they roll it out several new Beatles releases in early 2014, I see McCartney possibly laying off a tour until a few months go by, or else he tours in early 2014 and the Beatles project comes in summer. I don't know, a big Beatles release might give new a bump especially if he is touring, kind of promoting both, there must be a cohesive plan we just don't know what it is. This isin't over yet
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Bruce M.:
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Nancy R:
Where is the album itself right now on the charts in the U.S.?
We'll know tomorrow, when Billboard publishes the new chart, but probably around #50, as I mentioned several posts ago. Still #40 as of the current week's chart.
HitsDailyDouble has it at #41 this week. They don't always quite synch with Billboard, but this suggests it will remain in the top 50. http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
Well No such luck : NEW drops to 63 in week 5 on Billboard.
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whobeatle:
Bruce M.:
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Nancy R:
Where is the album itself right now on the charts in the U.S.?
We'll know tomorrow, when Billboard publishes the new chart, but probably around #50, as I mentioned several posts ago. Still #40 as of the current week's chart.
HitsDailyDouble has it at #41 this week. They don't always quite synch with Billboard, but this suggests it will remain in the top 50. http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
Well if Daily Double has him at 41, here's hoping his promo team dug in deep and he stays at 40 or goes to 39, I know its unlikely but so were the Beatles. I think big Beatles releases for the USA 50 Anniversary will roll out around Feb? when did they go number one in the USA, and when did they first do Sullivan, will they feel beholden to do the release right in sync with the Anniversary of Sullivan or will anytime in 2014 be sufficient? Its an important question, because if they roll it out several new Beatles releases in early 2014, I see McCartney possibly laying off a tour until a few months go by, or else he tours in early 2014 and the Beatles project comes in summer. I don't know, a big Beatles release might give new a bump especially if he is touring, kind of promoting both, there must be a cohesive plan we just don't know what it is. This isin't over yet
Feb. 1, 1964 I Want To Hold Your Hand made #1. Stayed there 7 weeks! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Want_to_Hold_Your_Hand Feb. 9, 1964 was their 1st appearance on Ed Sullivan Show:
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Frank:
Bruce M.:
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Nancy R:
Where is the album itself right now on the charts in the U.S.?
We'll know tomorrow, when Billboard publishes the new chart, but probably around #50, as I mentioned several posts ago. Still #40 as of the current week's chart.
HitsDailyDouble has it at #41 this week. They don't always quite synch with Billboard, but this suggests it will remain in the top 50. http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
Well No such luck : NEW drops to 63 in week 5 on Billboard.
Drat. Well, this can largely be explained by the fact that several Christmas/holiday albums have vaulted over Paul, more than HitsDailyDouble accounted for.
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Frank:
Bruce M.:
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Nancy R:
Where is the album itself right now on the charts in the U.S.?
We'll know tomorrow, when Billboard publishes the new chart, but probably around #50, as I mentioned several posts ago. Still #40 as of the current week's chart.
HitsDailyDouble has it at #41 this week. They don't always quite synch with Billboard, but this suggests it will remain in the top 50. http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
Well No such luck : NEW drops to 63 in week 5 on Billboard.
Drat. Well, this can largely be explained by the fact that several Christmas/holiday albums have vaulted over Paul, more than HitsDailyDouble accounted for.
I don't remember the 2 charts being that badly out of synch before. Interesting.
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Bruce M.:
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Frank:
Bruce M.:
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Nancy R:
Where is the album itself right now on the charts in the U.S.?
We'll know tomorrow, when Billboard publishes the new chart, but probably around #50, as I mentioned several posts ago. Still #40 as of the current week's chart.
HitsDailyDouble has it at #41 this week. They don't always quite synch with Billboard, but this suggests it will remain in the top 50. http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
Well No such luck : NEW drops to 63 in week 5 on Billboard.
Drat. Well, this can largely be explained by the fact that several Christmas/holiday albums have vaulted over Paul, more than HitsDailyDouble accounted for.
I don't remember the 2 charts being that badly out of synch before. Interesting.
What a blow, huge unexpected drop, but again that's only the American charts, and McCartney is concentrating on Japan and that general region of the world right now. I would expect a bump up in Japan, and maybe nearby countries like Taiwan or the Phillipines or even Australia. I'm not sure how much cross pollination or extra sales you get in those countries when you play Japan. I would think Australia and Taiwan play more news stories from Japan than the USA. What I'm saying, maybe he dropped heavily in the USA this week, but made up for it with Japanese sales this week. I hope I think he could make the album re enter the lower half of the top 40 i n the USA next year if tours there, and does more tv and plays several more New songs live in the sets, maybe a third video as well. I've heard there will be several Beatles 50th USA anniversary offerings from Apple/Universal starting maybe in Feb 2014. I wonder if that will boost NEW sales, or depress them. I tend to think this massive Beatles thing will help NEW sales. I would think he may want to tour USA in Feb March, April to boost everything. Beatles have a CBS Anniversary special in Feb, with both Ringo and Paul, surviving contemporaries, and hot new bands doing their version of Beatles songs. Also Let it Be (the movie) may be in the pipeline, possibly the Beatles music videos. and possibly some unreleased songs from the archives, in addition to other projects, possibly a live concert video compilation. So I don't know, sounds massive, maybe NEW can ride that wave in early to mid 2014. We'll find out, its a nice album. We do know for certain, Beatles reunion producer Jeff Lynne, and Ringo Starr were both with McCartney recording something, during the NEW sessions period, they don't appear on NEW< so what could they have been doing? I have a pretty good idea, watch the BBC 4 special on Jeff Lynne from October 2012 to get an idea of what.
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whobeatle:
Bruce M.:
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Frank:
Bruce M.:
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Nancy R:
Where is the album itself right now on the charts in the U.S.?
We'll know tomorrow, when Billboard publishes the new chart, but probably around #50, as I mentioned several posts ago. Still #40 as of the current week's chart.
HitsDailyDouble has it at #41 this week. They don't always quite synch with Billboard, but this suggests it will remain in the top 50. http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
Well No such luck : NEW drops to 63 in week 5 on Billboard.
Drat. Well, this can largely be explained by the fact that several Christmas/holiday albums have vaulted over Paul, more than HitsDailyDouble accounted for.
I don't remember the 2 charts being that badly out of synch before. Interesting.
What a blow, huge unexpected drop, but again that's only the American charts, and McCartney is concentrating on Japan and that general region of the world right now. I would expect a bump up in Japan, and maybe nearby countries like Taiwan or the Phillipines or even Australia. I'm not sure how much cross pollination or extra sales you get in those countries when you play Japan. I would think Australia and Taiwan play more news stories from Japan than the USA. What I'm saying, maybe he dropped heavily in the USA this week, but made up for it with Japanese sales this week. I hope I think he could make the album re enter the lower half of the top 40 i n the USA next year if tours there, and does more tv and plays several more New songs live in the sets, maybe a third video as well. I've heard there will be several Beatles 50th USA anniversary offerings from Apple/Universal starting maybe in Feb 2014. I wonder if that will boost NEW sales, or depress them. I tend to think this massive Beatles thing will help NEW sales. I would think he may want to tour USA in Feb March, April to boost everything. Beatles have a CBS Anniversary special in Feb, with both Ringo and Paul, surviving contemporaries, and hot new bands doing their version of Beatles songs. Also Let it Be (the movie) may be in the pipeline, possibly the Beatles music videos. and possibly some unreleased songs from the archives, in addition to other projects, possibly a live concert video compilation. So I don't know, sounds massive, maybe NEW can ride that wave in early to mid 2014. We'll find out, its a nice album. We do know for certain, Beatles reunion producer Jeff Lynne, and Ringo Starr were both with McCartney recording something, during the NEW sessions period, they don't appear on NEW< so what could they have been doing? I have a pretty good idea, watch the BBC 4 special on Jeff Lynne from October 2012 to get an idea of what.
"I would think Australia and Taiwan play more news stories from Japan than the USA." WhoB.... I can guarantee you in Australia we play more stories from the US and NONE from Japan... no speak Japanese...we are the 51st state of America, even before Canada!... Every day I check out what is happening on AOL and even the most obscure tid-bits I see two days later in our mainstream papers (papers being an antiquated term for on-line).... We might now be construed as part of Asia Pacific (mostly for business reasons) but we are US-centric. And UK-centric (apparently they sent their best and brightest here over 200 years ago) As I said before, I do hope you are right on those Beatles releases.... I won't elaborate but if even half (even a quarter) of those come to fruition, I'll be a very happy fellow. Keep us in the loop! Sounds very exciting.
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NEW stays at #19 on the Global Album Chart with sales of 39.000 Its 5th week release total now stands at 365.000 globally .
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Sir Guy Grand:
NEW stays at #19 on the Global Album Chart with sales of 39.000 Its 5th week release total now stands at 365.000 globally .
Sounds pretty good "New" will continue to sell--word of mouth gives it a big boost too, no doubt. I've touted it, in my own small way, on facebook and other outlets. Given the most glowing of praise