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    THE NEXT DELUXE/REMASTERED ALBUM FROM PAUL

    NOT SUCH A BAD BOY
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    • oobu24
      oobu24 last edited by

      wingsoverkc wrote:

      OMG!! Please stop. Please.

      LOL!

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      • SusyLuvsPaul
        SusyLuvsPaul last edited by

        That's good natured of you, oobu, not to be pissed off. I hope Nancy R. doesn't get irked as well.

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        • Kestrel
          Kestrel last edited by

          oobu24 wrote:

          wingsoverkc wrote:

          OMG!! Please stop. Please.

          LOL!

          I'm suddenly reminded that if you hold up the cover of the Red Rose Speedway album to an artificial light source at a 45 degree angle, the colour of the rose in Paul's gob changes to a slightly different shade of red when compared to viewing the cover in daylight at a 60 degree angle.  

          Wembley Empire Pool, London  (Wings) 21st October 1976.

          'Take It Away' video shoot Elstree studios, London 23rd June 1982.

          'Give My Regards To Broad Street' film premier, London 29th November 1984.

          Docklands Arena rehearsal concert, London 5th February 1993.

          Run Devil Run launch party, Equinox Club, London 30th September 1999.

          O2 Arena, London 22nd December 2009.

          O2 Arena, London 5th December 2011.

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          • oobu24
            oobu24 last edited by

            SusyLuvsPaul wrote:

            That's good natured of you, oobu, not to be pissed off. I hope Nancy R. doesn't get irked as well.

            Hey, I'm fine with it. And I agree. Some of these posts are quoted so many times you can't even read them if you happen to start midway through.

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            • oobu24
              oobu24 last edited by

              Kestrel wrote:

              I'm suddenly reminded that if you hold up the cover of the Red Rose Speedway album to an artificial light source at a 45 degree angle, the colour of the rose in Paul's gob changes to a slightly different shade of red when compared to viewing the cover in daylight at a 60 degree angle.  

              Good one!

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                B J Conlee last edited by

                B J Conlee wrote:

                wingsoverkc wrote:

                Flaming Pie opened at #74 on Billboard 200. Meh. Pretty sure it won't go any higher, still not bad for a 23 year old album.  And BJ, great review; patiently waiting for your grades on the additional bonus songs on the second CD.  Only complaints on your review of FP are IMO The Song We Were Singing is an ELEVEN;  and sorry but Somedays just is a SIX for me. Too slow, too generic for my taste.

                Wingsoverkc,

                Thanks for the Billboard info on Flaming Pie.  I've been looking for it so it just must have come out.  You are right...#74 for a 23 year old album is pretty good but for a massive Paul fan (like you) I was hoping for a little higher based on the publicity FP has received as a Reissue/Remaster.  Not sure some of the great songs on FP (e.g. Young Boy, Beautiful Night, Little Willow, Calico Skies etc) will receive more radio airplay via all the various published charts.  Such a shame that those 4 songs in particular aren't more known to the public in general.

                We will have to agree to disagree on "The Song We Were Singing" and "Somedays".  The 2 songs from the Target 2nd Disc that I only wished would have been on the original FP are "Whole Life" and "Love Come Tumbling Down".  I agree with you that both songs (replacing "Really Love You", and "Used to be Bad") would have made FP a much stronger album.  I love "Whole Life" and with a little 'flushing out" would have given FP the addlitional rocker, punch and rawness that it needed.

                Just saw a "video" review on Flaming PIe from "Vinyl Rewind" that made me feel good.  The gentleman doing the reviewing was showing the 3 Vinyl LP Archive/Remaster package he just recently received and listened to.  He seemed to be a very fair critic and overall he loved almost all of Flaming Pie.  He thought the production from Paul and Jeff Lynne was impeccable.  He seemed to be a big fan of Jeff Lynne and ELO and he really liked Flaming Pie.

                He didn't review every song but he highlighted his 4 favorite tracks.  They were 1) Somedays 2) Young Boy 3) Calico Skies and 4) Beautiful Night.  He went into the great production techniques of George Martin on the 1st and last song above.  What surprised me is how much he loved "Young Boy" which to him was probably the best song on FP.  He also loved Calico Skies.

                His only negatives on FP were 2 songs that he thought should have been B-Sides and didn't think they should have been on the original album. The 2 tracks were 1) Used to Be Bad and 2) Really Love You.  His main complain that they were basically "jam" songs compared to the great Paul written songs on FP.  He liked some of the home recordings on the Vinyl LP's but didn't think they were essential to have in your collection.  It was interresting that he thought the home recording of "The Song We Were Singing"was better than the album cut.

                Anyway his review made me feel pretty good since he loved some of the same songs that I loved plus he basically agreed with me about FP having too many "jam" songs like "Really Love You" and "Used to be Bad".

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                • SusyLuvsPaul
                  SusyLuvsPaul last edited by

                  On that fun vid "The Making of Flaming Pie" actually the only song being shown worked on is "Beautiful Night" at Abbey Road studio with George Martin producing. And not all of the song, just part. In another part,  Paul mentions the FP song "Little Willow" saying, "We heard a friend had died and I wrote this about the friend, this song Little Willow." He said something like that, without mentioning Maureen's name. I wonder why more of the album being recorded wasn't exhibited.  I love that vid anyway, and Linda is shown, a bit. It starts off with Paul and Linda riding horses on their Sussex property.  I think Paul was about 55 at the time, and his longish hair looks frosted gray;  he let some grey show then.  He's pretty high spirited and chipper  in a good mood, obviously they're still optimistic about Linda's possible recovery from cancer.  And he's having great fun making the new album. What a fantastic feeling it must be to see one's song being shown such fantastic production values in the studio, so much brilliant professional effort being made on its behalf. Making "Beautiful Night"--  I don't believe Paul ever became jaded to that thrill.  Have any of y'all seen this vid ?

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                  • Yankeefan2
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                    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/paul-mccartney-flaming-pie-box-set-review-1036002/

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                      B J Conlee last edited by

                      SusyLuvsPaul wrote:

                      On that fun vid "The Making of Flaming Pie" actually the only song being shown worked on is "Beautiful Night" at Abbey Road studio with George Martin producing. And not all of the song, just part. In another part,  Paul mentions the FP song "Little Willow" saying, "We heard a friend had died and I wrote this about the friend, this song Little Willow." He said something like that, without mentioning Maureen's name. I wonder why more of the album being recorded wasn't exhibited.  I love that vid anyway, and Linda is shown, a bit. It starts off with Paul and Linda riding horses on their Sussex property.  I think Paul was about 55 at the time, and his longish hair looks frosted gray;  he let some grey show then.  He's pretty high spirited and chipper  in a good mood, obviously they're still optimistic about Linda's possible recovery from cancer.  And he's having great fun making the new album. What a fantastic feeling it must be to see one's song being shown such fantastic production values in the studio, so much brilliant professional effort being made on its behalf. Making "Beautiful Night"--  I don't believe Paul ever became jaded to that thrill.  Have any of y'all seen this vid ?

                      Susy,

                      Love your post above.  We do love Paul and he seems like such a nice, humble guy.

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                      • Nancy R
                        Nancy R last edited by

                        SusyLuvsPaul wrote:

                        On that fun vid "The Making of Flaming Pie" actually the only song being shown worked on is "Beautiful Night" at Abbey Road studio with George Martin producing. And not all of the song, just part. In another part,  Paul mentions the FP song "Little Willow" saying, "We heard a friend had died and I wrote this about the friend, this song Little Willow." He said something like that, without mentioning Maureen's name. I wonder why more of the album being recorded wasn't exhibited.  I love that vid anyway, and Linda is shown, a bit. It starts off with Paul and Linda riding horses on their Sussex property.  I think Paul was about 55 at the time, and his longish hair looks frosted gray;  he let some grey show then.  He's pretty high spirited and chipper  in a good mood, obviously they're still optimistic about Linda's possible recovery from cancer.  And he's having great fun making the new album. What a fantastic feeling it must be to see one's song being shown such fantastic production values in the studio, so much brilliant professional effort being made on its behalf. Making "Beautiful Night"--  I don't believe Paul ever became jaded to that thrill.  Have any of y'all seen this vid ?

                        Yes, watched it after I got my deluxe Flaming Pie. Only thing I haven't watched is the "World Tonight" video as I already have the DVD of it. You would like it because it has more stuff in it in addition to what was on the "Making Of" video.

                        Regarding Linda's "possible recovery from cancer," sadly Paul was told privately by the doctor from the very beginning practically, that there wasn't a lot of hope. I'll never forget one of the news anchors on The Today Show or GMA (I think it was the guy that got fired, his name escapes me)  interviewing Paul after her death and he asked about a previous interview where Paul had said Linda was doing well and in remission. Paul answered "Well, I was lying to you." Paul never let on to Linda that he knew she was dying because he wanted her last years to be happy.

                        Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

                        GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

                        Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                        FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

                        Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

                        Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                        Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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                        • SusyLuvsPaul
                          SusyLuvsPaul last edited by

                          Yes, Nancy R, I remember reading about that now. It is and was very sad. Paul is a very strong person to have been able to sustain that, knowing what he knew. It's extraordinary. A tremendously strong  person.  I need to be more like him.

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                          • Nancy R
                            Nancy R last edited by

                            SusyLuvsPaul wrote:

                            Yes, Nancy R, I remember reading about that now. It is and was very sad. Paul is a very strong person to have been able to sustain that, knowing what he knew. It's extraordinary. A tremendously strong  person.  I need to be more like him.

                            Yes, only someone like Paul could do that. We all probably wish we could be more like him!  "My Brave Face" was oddly prophetic. 😢

                            Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

                            GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

                            Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                            FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

                            Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

                            Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                            Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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                            • Darkhorse5150
                              Darkhorse5150 last edited by

                              Lets hope London Town and Back To The Egg are next!

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                                John Mackintosh last edited by

                                Interesting that the recent announcement on McCartney 3 cited London Town when recapping the Wings years and ignored some other  Wings albums that have received the Archives treatment .  Perhaps a little first step of publicity for London Town finally getting the special treatment?

                                New York City-1989; Boston-1990; Raleigh, N.C.-1990, 2002; Columbia, S.C.-1993, 2015 Charlotte, N.C.-1993, 2010; Toronto-2010-MULL OF KINTYRE AT LAST!!   Cincinnati-2011; Washington, D.C.-2013; Atlanta-1990. 1993. 2002, 2005, 2009, 2014. Knoxville-2022

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                                • Nancy R
                                  Nancy R last edited by

                                  John Mackintosh wrote:

                                  Interesting that the recent announcement on McCartney 3 cited London Town when recapping the Wings years and ignored some other  Wings albums that have received the Archives treatment .  Perhaps a little first step of publicity for London Town finally getting the special treatment?

                                  Did you mean they ignored other Wings albums that have NOT received the Archives treatment?

                                  Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

                                  GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

                                  Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                                  FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

                                  Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

                                  Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                                  Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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                                  • J
                                    John Mackintosh last edited by

                                    Nancy R wrote:

                                    John Mackintosh wrote:

                                    Interesting that the recent announcement on McCartney 3 cited London Town when recapping the Wings years and ignored some other  Wings albums that have received the Archives treatment .  Perhaps a little first step of publicity for London Town finally getting the special treatment?

                                    Did you mean they ignored other Wings albums that have NOT received the Archives treatment?

                                    Well, the only other Wings album "out in the cold" is Back to the Egg so presumably that could be down same time as London Town and include DVD from their late 1979 UK tour, Wings Last Flight as the bootleg CD is entitled

                                    New York City-1989; Boston-1990; Raleigh, N.C.-1990, 2002; Columbia, S.C.-1993, 2015 Charlotte, N.C.-1993, 2010; Toronto-2010-MULL OF KINTYRE AT LAST!!   Cincinnati-2011; Washington, D.C.-2013; Atlanta-1990. 1993. 2002, 2005, 2009, 2014. Knoxville-2022

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                                    • Nancy R
                                      Nancy R last edited by

                                      John Mackintosh wrote:

                                      Nancy R wrote:

                                      John Mackintosh wrote:

                                      Interesting that the recent announcement on McCartney 3 cited London Town when recapping the Wings years and ignored some other  Wings albums that have received the Archives treatment .  Perhaps a little first step of publicity for London Town finally getting the special treatment?

                                      Did you mean they ignored other Wings albums that have NOT received the Archives treatment?

                                      Well, the only other Wings album "out in the cold" is Back to the Egg so presumably that could be down same time as London Town and include DVD from their late 1979 UK tour, Wings Last Flight as the bootleg CD is entitled

                                      I think I misunderstood you, then you misunderstood me! Can you please rephrase your original statement? I didn't understand what you were trying to say.

                                      Omni, Atlanta, GA May 18, 1976, Feb. 17, 1990

                                      GA Dome, Atlanta, GA May 1, 1993

                                      Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA May 12, 2002

                                      FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN May 26, 2013

                                      Philips Arena, Atlanta, GA Oct. 15, 2014

                                      Infinite Energy Center, Duluth, GA July 13, 2017

                                      Bon Secours Arena, Greenville, SC May 30, 2019

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                                      • Bogey Wobble
                                        Bogey Wobble last edited by

                                        Greetings,

                                        Despite all the exciting focus for the upcoming release, going back slightly to the fairly recent and most excellent Flaming Pie - Archive Collection.

                                        I've been meaning to post about the quality of this Deluxe release.

                                        The audio tracks (I really love the unreleased material); my two very favorites are, "Heaven On A Sunday" (Rude Cassette) is a loose, but fresh alternative to the studio take and "Whole Life" (Rough Mix) is a great version. Hearing Sir Paul's vocal layering efforts on this one is an unexpected treat. The Oobu Joobu offerings is appreciated as well.

                                        The packaging and rag stock used for this Deluxe set is tremendous.

                                        Truly worthy of the "Archive Collection" title. I noticed the interior packaging was constructed with (what looks like to me) acid free mat boards. The design and cloth clamshell box also makes this a class act release.

                                        I keep listening to the various disks on a regular basis. A pure joy.

                                        Highly recommended for anyone who still may be contemplating.

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                                        • Darkhorse5150
                                          Darkhorse5150 last edited by

                                          Any updates on future Archival Releases?

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                                          • Guitarman147
                                            Guitarman147 last edited by

                                            Darkhorse5150 wrote:

                                            Any updates on future Archival Releases?

                                            I think the general assumption is that it will be London Town and Back to the Egg. My hope is that all of the post-Beatles studio albums, at least up to Flaming Pie, will get some sort of Archive release in one form or another.

                                            "Music is its own reward"
                                            \-Sting

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