Remastered 50th Anniversary White Album?
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In Defense of 'Revolution 9' at 50: Why the Beatles' Most Daring Track Is Still Underrated
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jimmix wrote:
In Defense of 'Revolution 9' at 50: Why the Beatles' Most Daring Track Is Still Underrated
The avant-garde "sound picture" is a work of genius. Detractors can skip it. I always listen to all 8 + minutes of it. That's the beauty of the "White Album". It's big enough to hold Revolution 9 and not crowd anything else out. I love the fact that Lennon said "fuck it" and put it on there!
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joeysmith2 wrote:
jl4761 wrote:
jl4761 wrote:
I've been listening to THE WHITE ALBUM from the 6 CD + 1 Blu-Ray Super Deluxe Set, IT SOUNDS GREAT! The 2018 mix is the best mix to date! I've been listening to the CD's with my earbuds as well as my 8000 watt high powered stereo system, THE BASS IS INCREDIBLE! My whole house is shaking from the BASS!
I'd like to add something to my post! While the 2018 mix is great due to the tremendous bass, you don't hear the guitar sounds as much. While songs such as "Birthday," "Helter Skelter" and "Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except For Me And My Monkey" have great bass, you barely hear the guitar sounds. What do you think?
Personally, Helter-skelter sounds hollow to me. The original had Pauls booming bass that was just as loud as the lead guitar. Now it sounds way too clean and soft, the opposite of what Paul intended. Giles ruined the song with this new mix. Also what happened to the really loud 20 minute version we always heard about. Instead we get a slower blues groove. A big miss.
Hey, it's a remix! Not everyone's gonna like it. But the original is still out there too. Enjoy the extras. It's a gift for 2018!
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"You barely hear the guitar sounds" (?)--how is that so? Why would Giles Martin have remixed it like that? That can't be right.
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Nancy R wrote:
It's a great article on the song and the band....how cohesive they were when...as Ringo put it...locked in a room and could play together and be a band again. The title of the article? Misleading and very condescending!
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oobu24 wrote:
From the Chicago Tribune today...an article about the White Album & which songs should have been kept & which were duds...according to the author & George Martin.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-ae-beatles-white-album-review-1118-story.html
His writing about the album is all over the place...some made up stuff and some factual here and there. I don't completely disagree with the single album idea. There were enough excellent songs to make the perfect album. I don't even disagree with his selections...except why only 12 songs? By then, albums had 14 songs. I would probably never leave off "Glass Onion" or "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La Da." I could live with that as a single album. I made my own out of the two albums.....still two albums but with some songs removed. I don't need to ever hear the Honey Pie songs...both of them...or Revolution 9. I could do without Ringo's contribution and his (vocal on) Good Night. With the songs the writer of the article included, there are enough good ones to make a second....later album...and still leave off the ones I mentioned..IMO. For me, however, hearing George's "Long, Long, Long" remixed is more than worth the price of the whole shebang. Love that song. It could be the perfect ending song on the album as the writer placed it. (I'm not so sure that when George Martin made his comment he was referring to the finished product. I've read that he made the statement going by the titles and some reading of the lyrics only. He didn't know what ideas they had for melody or how the finished songs would sound. Knowing that could have made a difference in what he said. He has been quoted saying that. ) I may try and make the album the writer suggested and see how I like it. Not sure about "Sexie Sady," however. I might choose "....Bungalo Bill" or instead...or "Savoy Truffle" instead. Regardless....it's one of the ten best albums of all time per Rolling Stone and deserves to be....the shear variety it has is brilliant.
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Beatles4Ever&Ever wrote:
..... For me, however, hearing George's "Long, Long, Long" remixed is more than worth the price of the whole shebang. Love that song. It could be the perfect ending song on the album as the writer placed it. ...
This take (take 44) is just BEAUTIFUL!
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Beatles4Ever&Ever wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
It's a great article on the song and the band....how cohesive they were when...as Ringo put it...locked in a room and could play together and be a band again. The title of the article? Misleading and very condescending!
True that!
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Beatles4Ever&Ever wrote:
oobu24 wrote:
From the Chicago Tribune today...an article about the White Album & which songs should have been kept & which were duds...according to the author & George Martin.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-ae-beatles-white-album-review-1118-story.html
His writing about the album is all over the place...some made up stuff and some factual here and there. I don't completely disagree with the single album idea. There were enough excellent songs to make the perfect album. I don't even disagree with his selections...except why only 12 songs? By then, albums had 14 songs. I would probably never leave off "Glass Onion" or "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La Da." I could live with that as a single album. I made my own out of the two albums.....still two albums but with some songs removed. I don't need to ever hear the Honey Pie songs...both of them...or Revolution 9. I could do without Ringo's contribution and his (vocal on) Good Night. With the songs the writer of the article included, there are enough good ones to make a second....later album...and still leave off the ones I mentioned..IMO. For me, however, hearing George's "Long, Long, Long" remixed is more than worth the price of the whole shebang. Love that song. It could be the perfect ending song on the album as the writer placed it. (I'm not so sure that when George Martin made his comment he was referring to the finished product. I've read that he made the statement going by the titles and some reading of the lyrics only. He didn't know what ideas they had for melody or how the finished songs would sound. Knowing that could have made a difference in what he said. He has been quoted saying that. ) I may try and make the album the writer suggested and see how I like it. Not sure about "Sexie Sady," however. I might choose "....Bungalo Bill" or instead...or "Savoy Truffle" instead. Regardless....it's one of the ten best albums of all time per Rolling Stone and deserves to be....the shear variety it has is brilliant.
I agree with you! Why does he call Martha My Dear a dud?! And to leave off I Will would be a crime! I also love Savoy Truffle and Birthday.
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oobu24 wrote:
Beatles4Ever&Ever wrote:
..... For me, however, hearing George's "Long, Long, Long" remixed is more than worth the price of the whole shebang. Love that song. It could be the perfect ending song on the album as the writer placed it. ...
This take (take 44) is just BEAUTIFUL!
Yes it is! Love it. I also like the idea of "Good Night" being sung by all 4 Beatles...(take 10 with guitar part from take 5). Not sure what went into the thinking on that one. The heavy orchestration and choir strikes me as the wrong production. Since it was John's song...although one he could not get away with singing; it had to be done by Ringo....I'm surprised he didn't fight more for the less lavish production. And surprised Martin, himself, didn't go with a simpler version, more in keeping with the album.
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Beatles4Ever&Ever wrote:
oobu24 wrote:
From the Chicago Tribune today...an article about the White Album & which songs should have been kept & which were duds...according to the author & George Martin.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-ae-beatles-white-album-review-1118-story.html
His writing about the album is all over the place...some made up stuff and some factual here and there. I don't completely disagree with the single album idea. There were enough excellent songs to make the perfect album. I don't even disagree with his selections...except why only 12 songs? By then, albums had 14 songs. I would probably never leave off "Glass Onion" or "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La Da." I could live with that as a single album. I made my own out of the two albums.....still two albums but with some songs removed. I don't need to ever hear the Honey Pie songs...both of them...or Revolution 9. I could do without Ringo's contribution and his (vocal on) Good Night. With the songs the writer of the article included, there are enough good ones to make a second....later album...and still leave off the ones I mentioned..IMO. For me, however, hearing George's "Long, Long, Long" remixed is more than worth the price of the whole shebang. Love that song. It could be the perfect ending song on the album as the writer placed it. (I'm not so sure that when George Martin made his comment he was referring to the finished product. I've read that he made the statement going by the titles and some reading of the lyrics only. He didn't know what ideas they had for melody or how the finished songs would sound. Knowing that could have made a difference in what he said. He has been quoted saying that. ) I may try and make the album the writer suggested and see how I like it. Not sure about "Sexie Sady," however. I might choose "....Bungalo Bill" or instead...or "Savoy Truffle" instead. Regardless....it's one of the ten best albums of all time per Rolling Stone and deserves to be....the shear variety it has is brilliant.
Also, the writer's suggestion for the perfect album has seven songs by John, three by Paul and two by George. Not sure Paul whould have gone along with that. But then if I stick in "Glass Onion" and "Ob La Di, Ob La Da" that would give John eight songs to four for Paul. That would not have worked either...for Paul.!!!
And how can I leave out "Mother Nature's Son" and "I Will?"
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There is also the take that the double album.... rather than it be released as a single album... allowed The Beatles to get away further from the poor record deal they were signed up with. I think it was treated as two records, and allowed them to double up on their contractual responsibilities.... on a shite deal... get closer to finalising that poor deal... two records in one...so it was a win.... I might be wrong, but I did read that... Nicholas Schaffner... and right or wrong on that, this is still my second favorite album! I love it! Double album every time.
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Beatles4Ever&Ever wrote:
Beatles4Ever&Ever wrote:
oobu24 wrote:
From the Chicago Tribune today...an article about the White Album & which songs should have been kept & which were duds...according to the author & George Martin.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-ae-beatles-white-album-review-1118-story.html
His writing about the album is all over the place...some made up stuff and some factual here and there. I don't completely disagree with the single album idea. There were enough excellent songs to make the perfect album. I don't even disagree with his selections...except why only 12 songs? By then, albums had 14 songs. I would probably never leave off "Glass Onion" or "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La Da." I could live with that as a single album. I made my own out of the two albums.....still two albums but with some songs removed. I don't need to ever hear the Honey Pie songs...both of them...or Revolution 9. I could do without Ringo's contribution and his (vocal on) Good Night. With the songs the writer of the article included, there are enough good ones to make a second....later album...and still leave off the ones I mentioned..IMO. For me, however, hearing George's "Long, Long, Long" remixed is more than worth the price of the whole shebang. Love that song. It could be the perfect ending song on the album as the writer placed it. (I'm not so sure that when George Martin made his comment he was referring to the finished product. I've read that he made the statement going by the titles and some reading of the lyrics only. He didn't know what ideas they had for melody or how the finished songs would sound. Knowing that could have made a difference in what he said. He has been quoted saying that. ) I may try and make the album the writer suggested and see how I like it. Not sure about "Sexie Sady," however. I might choose "....Bungalo Bill" or instead...or "Savoy Truffle" instead. Regardless....it's one of the ten best albums of all time per Rolling Stone and deserves to be....the shear variety it has is brilliant.
Also, the writer's suggestion for the perfect album has seven songs by John, three by Paul and two by George. Not sure Paul whould have gone along with that. But then if I stick in "Glass Onion" and "Ob La Di, Ob La Da" that would give John eight songs to four for Paul. That would not have worked either...for Paul.!!!
And how can I leave out "Mother Nature's Son" and "I Will?"
Correct.... my earlier point....Paul, just three songs!.... the dude that wrote that article was a stupid git. ... the balanced Beatles album as a 'single album' would have as many from Paul as John, two from George, one from Ringo.... Long, Long, Long..... almost the most underrated song of the Beatles catalogue.