THE 'FRESHEN UP' TOUR 2018
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B J Conlee wrote:
In Spite of All the Danger - he's had this in the Acoustic part of the Setlist for too long now...this is a perfect spot for "Confidante". This is a great song and relatively easy to play.
Let "em In - another example of Paul dragging out a Wings' song that he has done countless times. Why not another ES song like People Want Peace.
To take these two in isolation, it's interesting to note that he's not played the former in the UK since Glastonbury back in 2004 (execpt for two special shows at Abbey Road in 2005) and the latter hasn't been played in the UK since 2010.
I know he plays America every year and sorry to hear you think the setlist is boring and repetitive, but the UK gets shows twice a decade if we're lucky!
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johnnymain wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
In Spite of All the Danger - he's had this in the Acoustic part of the Setlist for too long now...this is a perfect spot for "Confidante". This is a great song and relatively easy to play.
Let "em In - another example of Paul dragging out a Wings' song that he has done countless times. Why not another ES song like People Want Peace.
To take these two in isolation, it's interesting to note that he's not played the former in the UK since Glastonbury back in 2004 (execpt for two special shows at Abbey Road in 2005) and the latter hasn't been played in the UK since 2010.
I know he plays America every year and sorry to hear you think the setlist is boring and repetitive, but the UK gets shows twice a decade if we're lucky!
Johnny, you make a good point being from the UK. I am speaking from my American experience at attending many shows over the years (since 1990).
As I mentioned, I don't have a problem with some repetition. I totally get Paul playing his "signature" Beatles' and Wings' songs like he does for the 1st timers and casual fans in the last third of the Show. But I think any big time Macca fan who likes Egypt Station like I do (no matter where they live) would have a problem with only 3 songs from this highly critical and commercially successful album.
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YellowCar wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
YellowCar wrote:
Is there a first part before Paul's set ?
Thank you.
They just play his music and show videos. No opening act, if that’s what you meant.
Thank you. It's DJ Holmes like the other tour I read on newspaper. How long is it ?
You know, I don’t really know as the past 3 times I was at dinner after soundcheck so didn’t get to my seat until almost 8 pm! I think it must start as soon as the doors open after soundcheck, which is usually about 7 pm. Paul is always late and the show will start close to 8:30 pm.
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B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan, relative to the setlist...you make a great point about the opener. There is where he should "set the stage" that this is going to be a real "Freshen Up". Macca has a #1 Billboard Top 200 Album. Why not start the show with an ES song like he did back in 1990 with Figure of 8 for the Flowers in the Dirt tour. Nothing wrong with letting the audience know that he is proud of ES. "Come On To Me" would be a good opener because it is on the charts and most people have at least heard it by now.
Looking at the Setlist...it's not the last third of the show that is the problem in my opinion. Nothing wrong with finishing up the show with his classic Beatle and Wings stuff. It is the beginning and middle that's the problem in my opinion. For example:
In Spite of All the Danger - he's had this in the Acoustic part of the Setlist for too long now...this is a perfect spot for "Confidante". This is a great song and relatively easy to play.
Let "em In - another example of Paul dragging out a Wings' song that he has done countless times. Why not another ES song like People Want Peace.
Let Me Roll It - how long is Paul going to keep dragging out this one. He and the Band can do it in their sleep and Paul's vocal is poor on it. Why not a great new ES song like Dominoes.
My Valentine - good song but he has been playing it for some time now. How about "Happy With You" as a tribute song to Nancy.
4-5 Seconds - I've given my feeling about this one on the previous post. "I Don't Know" or "Do It Now" would be far better choces.
For the Benefit of Mr. Kite - How about a Beatles' song you have never done before like "Martha My Dear" or "When I'm 64". I don't care if Wix plays the piano. Just do a great Beatles' song you've never done before.
Anyway, this is the kind of "freshen" up setlist that I would go miles to see and pay a lot of money. Any when you have a #1 Album that's both a critical and commercial success, there's no excust for not playing 8 songs or so from it. As I said, if I paid lots of money and saw the kind of setlist that he played last night, I would be furious.
McCartney stated in 1989 that he opened up with "Figure Of Eight" because he wanted to show the audience he was still a "relevant" artist. The same should be true today, opening with "Come On To Me" would say to the audience that I am still "relevant", have the number #1 allbum in the country and damn proud of it. Really, would any first timer be crushed if he replaced any of those songs with songs from "Egypt Station". It is not like he is not playing "Hey Jude" for example - lol.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan, relative to the setlist...you make a great point about the opener. There is where he should "set the stage" that this is going to be a real "Freshen Up". Macca has a #1 Billboard Top 200 Album. Why not start the show with an ES song like he did back in 1990 with Figure of 8 for the Flowers in the Dirt tour. Nothing wrong with letting the audience know that he is proud of ES. "Come On To Me" would be a good opener because it is on the charts and most people have at least heard it by now.
Looking at the Setlist...it's not the last third of the show that is the problem in my opinion. Nothing wrong with finishing up the show with his classic Beatle and Wings stuff. It is the beginning and middle that's the problem in my opinion. For example:
In Spite of All the Danger - he's had this in the Acoustic part of the Setlist for too long now...this is a perfect spot for "Confidante". This is a great song and relatively easy to play.
Let "em In - another example of Paul dragging out a Wings' song that he has done countless times. Why not another ES song like People Want Peace.
Let Me Roll It - how long is Paul going to keep dragging out this one. He and the Band can do it in their sleep and Paul's vocal is poor on it. Why not a great new ES song like Dominoes.
My Valentine - good song but he has been playing it for some time now. How about "Happy With You" as a tribute song to Nancy.
4-5 Seconds - I've given my feeling about this one on the previous post. "I Don't Know" or "Do It Now" would be far better choces.
For the Benefit of Mr. Kite - How about a Beatles' song you have never done before like "Martha My Dear" or "When I'm 64". I don't care if Wix plays the piano. Just do a great Beatles' song you've never done before.
Anyway, this is the kind of "freshen" up setlist that I would go miles to see and pay a lot of money. Any when you have a #1 Album that's both a critical and commercial success, there's no excust for not playing 8 songs or so from it. As I said, if I paid lots of money and saw the kind of setlist that he played last night, I would be furious.
McCartney stated in 1989 that he opened up with "Figure Of Eight" because he wanted to show the audience he was still a "relevant" artist. The same should be true today, opening with "Come On To Me" would say to the audience that I am still "relevant", have the number #1 allbum in the country and damn proud of it. Really, would any first timer be crushed if he replaced any of those songs with songs from "Egypt Station". It is not like he is not playing "Hey Jude" for example - lol.
Exactly!!
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Nancy R wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan, relative to the setlist...you make a great point about the opener. There is where he should "set the stage" that this is going to be a real "Freshen Up". Macca has a #1 Billboard Top 200 Album. Why not start the show with an ES song like he did back in 1990 with Figure of 8 for the Flowers in the Dirt tour. Nothing wrong with letting the audience know that he is proud of ES. "Come On To Me" would be a good opener because it is on the charts and most people have at least heard it by now.
Looking at the Setlist...it's not the last third of the show that is the problem in my opinion. Nothing wrong with finishing up the show with his classic Beatle and Wings stuff. It is the beginning and middle that's the problem in my opinion. For example:
In Spite of All the Danger - he's had this in the Acoustic part of the Setlist for too long now...this is a perfect spot for "Confidante". This is a great song and relatively easy to play.
Let "em In - another example of Paul dragging out a Wings' song that he has done countless times. Why not another ES song like People Want Peace.
Let Me Roll It - how long is Paul going to keep dragging out this one. He and the Band can do it in their sleep and Paul's vocal is poor on it. Why not a great new ES song like Dominoes.
My Valentine - good song but he has been playing it for some time now. How about "Happy With You" as a tribute song to Nancy.
4-5 Seconds - I've given my feeling about this one on the previous post. "I Don't Know" or "Do It Now" would be far better choces.
For the Benefit of Mr. Kite - How about a Beatles' song you have never done before like "Martha My Dear" or "When I'm 64". I don't care if Wix plays the piano. Just do a great Beatles' song you've never done before.
Anyway, this is the kind of "freshen" up setlist that I would go miles to see and pay a lot of money. Any when you have a #1 Album that's both a critical and commercial success, there's no excust for not playing 8 songs or so from it. As I said, if I paid lots of money and saw the kind of setlist that he played last night, I would be furious.
McCartney stated in 1989 that he opened up with "Figure Of Eight" because he wanted to show the audience he was still a "relevant" artist. The same should be true today, opening with "Come On To Me" would say to the audience that I am still "relevant", have the number #1 allbum in the country and damn proud of it. Really, would any first timer be crushed if he replaced any of those songs with songs from "Egypt Station". It is not like he is not playing "Hey Jude" for example - lol.
Exactly!!
I'll second that!
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From an interview will Billboard from Sept 19th. 2018:
You're in the middle of tour dates, and you're playing some songs from the new album on tour. I think you're playing, like, three or so? Will they change each night?
PAUL: We're doing three at the moment, 'cause you know why? 'Cause we didn't have that long to rehearse, and we're putting other things in the show. So it's a question of learning 'em. 'Cause you know, you write the thing, and then you go and record it. And when you record it, obviously it's a certain arrangement, so now you've got to reproduce it faithfully, you've got to learn that arrangement all over again. So we've learned three. We've got another one that we've nearly got. So they're gradually coming onboard. And then we may be able to change them up in that case.
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joyce wrote:
From an interview will Billboard from Sept 19th. 2018:
You're in the middle of tour dates, and you're playing some songs from the new album on tour. I think you're playing, like, three or so? Will they change each night?
PAUL: We're doing three at the moment, 'cause you know why? 'Cause we didn't have that long to rehearse, and we're putting other things in the show. So it's a question of learning 'em. 'Cause you know, you write the thing, and then you go and record it. And when you record it, obviously it's a certain arrangement, so now you've got to reproduce it faithfully, you've got to learn that arrangement all over again. So we've learned three. We've got another one that we've nearly got. So they're gradually coming onboard. And then we may be able to change them up in that case.
I think he forgot he performed Confidante in July lol
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joyce wrote:
From an interview will Billboard from Sept 19th. 2018:
You're in the middle of tour dates, and you're playing some songs from the new album on tour. I think you're playing, like, three or so? Will they change each night?
PAUL: We're doing three at the moment, 'cause you know why? 'Cause we didn't have that long to rehearse, and we're putting other things in the show. So it's a question of learning 'em. 'Cause you know, you write the thing, and then you go and record it. And when you record it, obviously it's a certain arrangement, so now you've got to reproduce it faithfully, you've got to learn that arrangement all over again. So we've learned three. We've got another one that we've nearly got. So they're gradually coming onboard. And then we may be able to change them up in that case.
Ok, the question will be will he do more than three songs or just rotate the others once they "learn" more. Maybe I am a cynic but can it really be that hard for a rock icon like McCartney and his touring band of more than 15 years to"learn" a song so it can be done live in a short period of time. Anyway, hope there will be more than three Egypt Station songs in the set list soon.
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paulmccartneyfan1 wrote:
joyce wrote:
From an interview will Billboard from Sept 19th. 2018:
You're in the middle of tour dates, and you're playing some songs from the new album on tour. I think you're playing, like, three or so? Will they change each night?
PAUL: We're doing three at the moment, 'cause you know why? 'Cause we didn't have that long to rehearse, and we're putting other things in the show. So it's a question of learning 'em. 'Cause you know, you write the thing, and then you go and record it. And when you record it, obviously it's a certain arrangement, so now you've got to reproduce it faithfully, you've got to learn that arrangement all over again. So we've learned three. We've got another one that we've nearly got. So they're gradually coming onboard. And then we may be able to change them up in that case.
I think he forgot he performed Confidante in July lol
Good catch - lol.
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corchians wrote:
Sadly Paul at age of 76 is still frightened by the judgment of the public....
Very true which is amazing. If I was him and played 25 Beatle/Wings hits every night, I think I would feel I satisfied my audience and the other remaining 10 songs I would do what I darn wanted to play and if the audience is a bit more quiet after those songs it would not really bother me.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
paulmccartneyfan1 wrote:
joyce wrote:
From an interview will Billboard from Sept 19th. 2018:
You're in the middle of tour dates, and you're playing some songs from the new album on tour. I think you're playing, like, three or so? Will they change each night?
PAUL: We're doing three at the moment, 'cause you know why? 'Cause we didn't have that long to rehearse, and we're putting other things in the show. So it's a question of learning 'em. 'Cause you know, you write the thing, and then you go and record it. And when you record it, obviously it's a certain arrangement, so now you've got to reproduce it faithfully, you've got to learn that arrangement all over again. So we've learned three. We've got another one that we've nearly got. So they're gradually coming onboard. And then we may be able to change them up in that case.
I think he forgot he performed Confidante in July lol
Good catch - lol.
For him to say they didnt have much time to rehearse is a horrible excuse. Schedule the dates in a time frame where you CAN rehearse. Don't make people buy the album, spends tons on tix, then rehash the same set with only 3 new songs. Awful.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
corchians wrote:
Sadly Paul at age of 76 is still frightened by the judgment of the public....
Very true which is amazing. If I was him and played 25 Beatle/Wings hits every night, I think I would feel I satisfied my audience and the other remaining 10 songs I would do what I darn wanted to play and if the audience is a bit more quiet after those songs it would not really bother me.
unfortunately he don't thinks (or feel) like "us" fans
And he seems to lost the persuasion that the majority of his current outputs aren't equivalent to the most beatle stuff. The "concert Paul" of 1993, 1989 or 1976 is unfortunately long ago history. To recognize this is as one side but to accept that a song like in spide of all the danger is more important for him than songs like Put it there, Own it all to you or Happy with you on the other side is barely comprehensible for fans who likes all his songs from 1957-2018.
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Maccaroni1974 wrote:
For him to say they didnt have much time to rehearse is a horrible excuse. Schedule the dates in a time frame where you CAN rehearse. Don't make people buy the album, spends tons on tix, then rehash the same set with only 3 new songs. Awful.
I bet you can't wait for the live cd and dvd set next year?
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mr.flamingpie wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
corchians wrote:
Sadly Paul at age of 76 is still frightened by the judgment of the public....
Very true which is amazing. If I was him and played 25 Beatle/Wings hits every night, I think I would feel I satisfied my audience and the other remaining 10 songs I would do what I darn wanted to play and if the audience is a bit more quiet after those songs it would not really bother me.
unfortunately he don't thinks (or feel) like "us" fans
And he seems to lost the persuasion that the majority of his current outputs aren't equivalent to the most beatle stuff. The "concert Paul" of 1993, 1989 or 1976 is unfortunately long ago history. To recognize this is as one side but to accept that a song like in spide of all the danger is more important for him than songs like Put it there, Own it all to you or Happy with you on the other side is barely comprehensible for fans who likes all his songs from 1957-2018.
Mr. Flaming Pie,
You make a great point. It's not that "In spite of all the Danger" is a bad song, but Paul has this notion that people naturally like his Beatle songs better (even the more obscure ones like "Danger") than his solo/non-beatle stuff. Why would you continue to drag out the secondary or tertiary songs (add I Wanna Be Your Man to the list) but not consider terrific Solo songs like Early Days (from New), Put It There (from Flowers in the Dirt), Happy With You (from Egypt Station), Young Boy (from Flaming Pie) etc etc. I could go on and on. Even if some in the audience are not that familiar with a specific Solo song, that as Yankeefan points out, should not matter. Have confidence in your own material no matter what the era is. For those fans unfamiliar, it is like hearing a new song. If it's good quality, it's good quality. We're not talking about obscure Solo songs here. We're talking about songs that were highlights from specific albums.
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B J Conlee wrote:
mr.flamingpie wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
corchians wrote:
Sadly Paul at age of 76 is still frightened by the judgment of the public....
Very true which is amazing. If I was him and played 25 Beatle/Wings hits every night, I think I would feel I satisfied my audience and the other remaining 10 songs I would do what I darn wanted to play and if the audience is a bit more quiet after those songs it would not really bother me.
unfortunately he don't thinks (or feel) like "us" fans
And he seems to lost the persuasion that the majority of his current outputs aren't equivalent to the most beatle stuff. The "concert Paul" of 1993, 1989 or 1976 is unfortunately long ago history. To recognize this is as one side but to accept that a song like in spide of all the danger is more important for him than songs like Put it there, Own it all to you or Happy with you on the other side is barely comprehensible for fans who likes all his songs from 1957-2018.
Mr. Flaming Pie,
You make a great point. It's not that "In spite of all the Danger" is a bad song, but Paul has this that his Beatle songs are naturally better (even the more obscure ones like "Danger") than his solo/non-beatle stuff. Why would you continue to drag out the secondary or tertiary (add I Wanna Be Your Man) songs but not consider terrific Solo songs like Early Days (from New), Put It There (from Flowers in the Dirt), Happy With You (from Egypt Station), Young Boy (from Flaming Pie) etc etc. I could go on and on.
Let's think about it, you are going to see Paul McCartney for the first time with significant other or friend and you start discussing what songs you would love to hear at the concert that night. How many people do you think would mention "In Spite Of All Danger" or "I Wanna Be Your Man" - lol ? I love the Beatles as much as anybody and even I could care less if I ever heard either one of them live. Next, he starts playing "45 Seconds" awhile ago and like you said maybe it is to appear hip and it was a "hit" so he plays it. News flash to Mr. McCartney, you are "hip" now with the #1 album in the country and you don't have to do a song you were barely involved with in your setlist IMO.
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Maccaroni1974 wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
paulmccartneyfan1 wrote:
joyce wrote:
From an interview will Billboard from Sept 19th. 2018:
You're in the middle of tour dates, and you're playing some songs from the new album on tour. I think you're playing, like, three or so? Will they change each night?
PAUL: We're doing three at the moment, 'cause you know why? 'Cause we didn't have that long to rehearse, and we're putting other things in the show. So it's a question of learning 'em. 'Cause you know, you write the thing, and then you go and record it. And when you record it, obviously it's a certain arrangement, so now you've got to reproduce it faithfully, you've got to learn that arrangement all over again. So we've learned three. We've got another one that we've nearly got. So they're gradually coming onboard. And then we may be able to change them up in that case.
I think he forgot he performed Confidante in July lol
Good catch - lol.
For him to say they didnt have much time to rehearse is a horrible excuse. Schedule the dates in a time frame where you CAN rehearse. Don't make people buy the album, spends tons on tix, then rehash the same set with only 3 new songs. Awful.
Like I said in another post, how long would it take for him and the band to rehearse some of these songs to be able to play them live? Are we to believe that McCartney and his band need tons of rehearsal to learn 5-6 songs that probably average around 3-4 minutes. It is not like they have to rehearse much else for this tour, the band can play the other songs probably in their sleep - lol.
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When will new tour dates be posted? Any ideas?
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After seeing the set list for the first two shows, I'm thinking of contacting trading standards about this tour name
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"The nothing new tour" here the real name!