Set List critique
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puppywhimpers wrote:
Agreed I was sad to see that go as well. As for the horns I believe they were part of the Roots. I think WHO CARES would make a great opener but I think he would want to tell the bully story. Any guesses on the new tour opening song? I don't think it will be anything fresh but a comeback of Venus and Mars>Rockshow >Jet or Magical Mystery Tour. Can't wait for next Monday. Ringo on Thursday- Paul Simon on Saturday-then my Macca Canadian trek begins!
I've never had the chance to see a Venus and Mars/Rockshow/Jet or Magical Mystery Tour opener - I'd love to see either one! My gut is telling me new opener though. He's got so many early Beatles songs to choose from if he wants to stick with that era like he's done for Out There and One on One. Could even make From Me To You the new opener. Or how about I Want to Hold Your Hand or She Loves You?
-Rubber Soul13
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Rubber Soul13 wrote:
My guess would be that he's holding back on the "never-done-before" songs until the tour. The Grand Central gig was a special concert for sure, but I doubt he'd want to cram in all of the new additions/shakeups for the pop-up show.
I could see the Grand Central gig being the "farewell" to some songs that he's performed over the last tour or two - A Hard Day's Night (it'll surely be removed if there's a new opener), Hi Hi Hi (unless he puts that into rotation like Get Back/Helter Skelter), Letting Go, I've Got A Feeling (at least for this upcoming tour). As far as the new/returning material - I'd like to see Mother Nature's Son, Martha My Dear (although as we know he's said the piano part is too difficult live -- why not give it to Wix ), For No One, I Will, Rocky Raccoon, Let 'Em In, Backseat of My Car (he's clearly rehearsed it for that Mexico City bit), Hello Goodbye, My Brave Face, When I'm 64, Sgt Pepper (full version). I'm also hoping for the return of You Never Give Me Your Money, but with the entire band this time. Or how about the full version of She Came In Through the Bathroom Window? That'd be neat!
I'd also really like to see the live horn section during the tour - that will certainly FRESHEN UP the show! What would work best with horns? C'Mon People, Sgt Pepper (obviously), All You Need Is Love, or how about a freshened up version of the Long and Winding Road? I was sad to see that one go and hope it'll make a return.
-Rubber Soul13
He hinted today on his live Twitter question and answer that he may bring the live horns back and what better song than Letting Go for that? If he doesn’t drop A Hard Day’s Night (which he sounds lousy on) and Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite! I will be VERY disappointed! Yes, do All You Need Is Love - John wrote that. Don’t try The Long and Winding Road - you can’t sing it anymore! My God, I’d rather hear him do You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)!!
Loved From Me To You and would love it if he did I Want To Hold Your Hand or She Loves You, if he thinks he needs another Beatles song. You guys who are big fans of his later work might as well resign yourself to the fact he’s not going to surprise us with some deep cut from the ‘80s or ‘90s. (or anything from 2000-2010 either!)
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Nancy R wrote:
Rubber Soul13 wrote:
My guess would be that he's holding back on the "never-done-before" songs until the tour. The Grand Central gig was a special concert for sure, but I doubt he'd want to cram in all of the new additions/shakeups for the pop-up show.
I could see the Grand Central gig being the "farewell" to some songs that he's performed over the last tour or two - A Hard Day's Night (it'll surely be removed if there's a new opener), Hi Hi Hi (unless he puts that into rotation like Get Back/Helter Skelter), Letting Go, I've Got A Feeling (at least for this upcoming tour). As far as the new/returning material - I'd like to see Mother Nature's Son, Martha My Dear (although as we know he's said the piano part is too difficult live -- why not give it to Wix ), For No One, I Will, Rocky Raccoon, Let 'Em In, Backseat of My Car (he's clearly rehearsed it for that Mexico City bit), Hello Goodbye, My Brave Face, When I'm 64, Sgt Pepper (full version). I'm also hoping for the return of You Never Give Me Your Money, but with the entire band this time. Or how about the full version of She Came In Through the Bathroom Window? That'd be neat!
I'd also really like to see the live horn section during the tour - that will certainly FRESHEN UP the show! What would work best with horns? C'Mon People, Sgt Pepper (obviously), All You Need Is Love, or how about a freshened up version of the Long and Winding Road? I was sad to see that one go and hope it'll make a return.
-Rubber Soul13
He hinted today on his live Twitter question and answer that he may bring the live horns back and what better song than Letting Go for that? If he doesn’t drop A Hard Day’s Night (which he sounds lousy on) and Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite! I will be VERY disappointed! Yes, do All You Need Is Love - John wrote that. Don’t try The Long and Winding Road - you can’t sing it anymore! My God, I’d rather hear him do You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)!!
Loved From Me To You and would love it if he did I Want To Hold Your Hand or She Loves You, if he thinks he needs another Beatles song. You guys who are big fans of his later work might as well resign yourself to the fact he’s not going to surprise us with some deep cut from the ‘80s or ‘90s. (or anything from 2000-2010 either!)
Thanks for your response, Nancy. Great to hear that he may be bringing back those horns!
Just curious - why don't you think Long and Winding Road isn't in his vocal range any longer? I personally hadn't noticed anything wrong with it, especially not when I was in the audience the last time he played it in Buffalo. Was there a specific instance or do you think it just doesn't sound right?
-Rubber Soul13
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I think Paul is as frustrated as us that he doesn't get the opportunity to play more of his solo stuff, in fact i've read an interview with him when he's said as much. He commented that when he plays non beatles/wings stuff the audience go quiet. So frustrating!
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There is some fantastic paul tribute acts going around, and they play songs from his whole career. Tony coburn is a paul tribute who i would highly recommend.
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If Paul will bring a brass section at his tour , here the songs that for me he should play:
Admiral Halsey
Silly Love song
Martha my dear
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Might be cute and cool if he'd open with "From Me To You" (not rockin' enough? I'd like it) and also trot out a new opening surprise every concert, a different opener for each one, cause novelty is...so novel, so much fun. I think he and the band would get a big kick out of it too. The massive audience will go wild no matter what he sings first, so he wouldn't have to worry about that ! It's such a dramatic heart stopping moment when he first dashes out onto the stage (along with the boys)....suddenly, after making you wait donkey's years (he's always late), there HE is !!! The spotlight finds him, he's always center stage as befits the "star" and his band seem masters at never grabbing the spotlight from him, always in the background, sort of, though Brian Ray's golden locks catch the light and he'll suddenly unleash a dazzling smile...Rusty likes to enact little pantomimes (I saw him pretend to draw on a ciggie, flick it out his fingers and stamp on it to put it out). Abe is vivacious and outgoing. Wix, the old faithful main stay, is appealingly understated and debonair. But I must admit my eyes were mostly glued to Macca. I screamed after many of the songs and sometimes during, once or twice, I've got a really good effective Beatlemaniac type scream, high pitched and soprano-ish more than shrill; pity Paul couldn't hear it over the uproar, but maybe he can when I'm on the ninth row (?) God willing, hopefully thrilling him somewhat to elicit such a rave up (?), though it won't thrill those around me.
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Apple jacket wrote:
I think Paul is as frustrated as us that he doesn't get the opportunity to play more of his solo stuff, in fact i've read an interview with him when he's said as much. He commented that when he plays non beatles/wings stuff the audience go quiet. So frustrating!
That is actually his own fault. If he had been adding more songs from his solo career rather than Beatles songs, people would know them by now. I'd love to see a show where songs from the last 30 years are featured along with a few of his all time standards.
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If you could pick and choose the set list for a fantasy macca gig you where about to attend, what 25 songs would you pick? And what venue would you choose?
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I'd like to hear:
Help!
From Me To You
When I'm Sixty Four
Take It Away
Young Boy
Uncle Albert
Anyway
Rinse The Raindrops
Big Barn Bed
Backseat Of My Car
Your Mother Should Know
She's Leaving Home
Letting Go w/the horns
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Rubber Soul13 wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
Rubber Soul13 wrote:
My guess would be that he's holding back on the "never-done-before" songs until the tour. The Grand Central gig was a special concert for sure, but I doubt he'd want to cram in all of the new additions/shakeups for the pop-up show.
I could see the Grand Central gig being the "farewell" to some songs that he's performed over the last tour or two - A Hard Day's Night (it'll surely be removed if there's a new opener), Hi Hi Hi (unless he puts that into rotation like Get Back/Helter Skelter), Letting Go, I've Got A Feeling (at least for this upcoming tour). As far as the new/returning material - I'd like to see Mother Nature's Son, Martha My Dear (although as we know he's said the piano part is too difficult live -- why not give it to Wix ), For No One, I Will, Rocky Raccoon, Let 'Em In, Backseat of My Car (he's clearly rehearsed it for that Mexico City bit), Hello Goodbye, My Brave Face, When I'm 64, Sgt Pepper (full version). I'm also hoping for the return of You Never Give Me Your Money, but with the entire band this time. Or how about the full version of She Came In Through the Bathroom Window? That'd be neat!
I'd also really like to see the live horn section during the tour - that will certainly FRESHEN UP the show! What would work best with horns? C'Mon People, Sgt Pepper (obviously), All You Need Is Love, or how about a freshened up version of the Long and Winding Road? I was sad to see that one go and hope it'll make a return.
-Rubber Soul13
He hinted today on his live Twitter question and answer that he may bring the live horns back and what better song than Letting Go for that? If he doesn’t drop A Hard Day’s Night (which he sounds lousy on) and Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite! I will be VERY disappointed! Yes, do All You Need Is Love - John wrote that. Don’t try The Long and Winding Road - you can’t sing it anymore! My God, I’d rather hear him do You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)!!
Loved From Me To You and would love it if he did I Want To Hold Your Hand or She Loves You, if he thinks he needs another Beatles song. You guys who are big fans of his later work might as well resign yourself to the fact he’s not going to surprise us with some deep cut from the ‘80s or ‘90s. (or anything from 2000-2010 either!)
Thanks for your response, Nancy. Great to hear that he may be bringing back those horns!
Just curious - why don't you think Long and Winding Road isn't in his vocal range any longer? I personally hadn't noticed anything wrong with it, especially not when I was in the audience the last time he played it in Buffalo. Was there a specific instance or do you think it just doesn't sound right?
-Rubber Soul13
TLAWR (especially the beginning) is just out of his range in the original key. I cringed every time I heard him sing it live in recent years. I think that’s why he dropped it. Let It Be still sounds okay, so he kept that.
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LonelyRoad wrote:
I'd like to hear:
Help!
From Me To You
When I'm Sixty Four
Take It Away
Young Boy
Uncle Albert
Anyway
Rinse The Raindrops
Big Barn Bed
Backseat Of My Car
Your Mother Should Know
She's Leaving Home
Letting Go w/the horns
Hearing a set that includes these would be amazing!
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Since the last show I attended in 2016 i would imagine there will be a few changes; shame he has dropped Here there and everywhere and fool on the hill i enjoyed hearing Paul do them. Its hard to predict what will be in the new show but something along these lines;
New opener From me to you/i wanna hold your hand/good day sunshine
Jet or Juniors farm
3 or 4 from Egypt Station ( dont think the songs from 'New 'will feature)
Cant buy me love
We can work it out
Not sure about the 2 tribute songs perhaps its time to change them around
Would love him to include Getting Better, Penny Lane, For no one, Two of us, Let em in, I'll follow the sun, take it away
Usually the latter half of show has remained the same but not long to find out!
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Apple jacket wrote:
If you could pick and choose the set list for a fantasy macca gig you where about to attend, what 25 songs would you pick? And what venue would you choose?
Take It Away
My Brave Face
Dance Til We're High
Dear Boy
I Can Bet
About You
That Was Me
House Of Wax
Early Days
Soily
Who Cares
Promise To You Girl
Hope Of Deliverance
Old Siam Sir
Run Devil Run
Beware My Love
Wanderlust
My Love
Little Willow
Rocky Racoon
Penny Lane
Got To Get You Into My Life
Hold Me Tight
Getting Better
Oh Darling
*** This is my fantasy set list and he would do this concert at Carnegie Hall in NY (great acoustics). Since it is a fantasy, he still had a voice of a 30 year old - lol.
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oobu24 wrote:
Apple jacket wrote:
I think Paul is as frustrated as us that he doesn't get the opportunity to play more of his solo stuff, in fact i've read an interview with him when he's said as much. He commented that when he plays non beatles/wings stuff the audience go quiet. So frustrating!
That is actually his own fault. If he had been adding more songs from his solo career rather than Beatles songs, people would know them by now. I'd love to see a show where songs from the last 30 years are featured along with a few of his all time standards.
Exactly !! I have said it before and will say it again, so what if the audience goes quiet for a few solo songs. He gets plenty of applause for the hits so he should be able to handle polite applause for a few songs and actually show the crowd he still has written some excellent music since 1982 !!!
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
oobu24 wrote:
Apple jacket wrote:
I think Paul is as frustrated as us that he doesn't get the opportunity to play more of his solo stuff, in fact i've read an interview with him when he's said as much. He commented that when he plays non beatles/wings stuff the audience go quiet. So frustrating!
That is actually his own fault. If he had been adding more songs from his solo career rather than Beatles songs, people would know them by now. I'd love to see a show where songs from the last 30 years are featured along with a few of his all time standards.
Exactly !! I have said it before and will say it again, so what if the audience goes quiet for a few solo songs. He gets plenty of applause for the hits so he should be able to handle polite applause for a few songs and actually show the crowd he still has written some excellent music since 1982 !!!
This. And he got plenty of opportunities to play the material he allegedly wants to play. But even during the promo gigs around a new album, or during intimate "fan only" shows, he just plays the same ol' same ol' with maybe a token cover.
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oobu24 wrote:
That is actually his own fault. If he had been adding more songs from his solo career rather than Beatles songs, people would know them by now. I'd love to see a show where songs from the last 30 years are featured along with a few of his all time standards.
There was a moment to change this, and it was in 2002/3. If he'd kept late 80s/90s songs in the set then, he'd have established a useful precedent that the shows were not going to be '63-'82 + the current album. Imagine if the Driving USA/Back in the US/Back in the World setlist had looked more like this... I bet more of his solo catalog would still be in the show:
The World Tonight
Jet
My Brave Face
Getting Better
Coming Up
Let Me Roll It
Lonely Road
Driving Rain
Run Devil Run
Souvenir
Your Loving Flame
Blackbird
Every Night
We Can Work It Out
You Never Give Me Your Money/Carry That Weight
The Fool On The Hill
Here Today
Something
Calico Skies
Put It There
Band On The Run
Back in The USSR
Maybe I’m Amazed
Cmon People
From a Lover to a Friend
About You
Can’t Buy Me Love
Live and Let Die
Let it Be
Beautiful Night
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Long and Winding Road
Honey Hush
Flaming Pie
I Saw Her Standing There
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Yesterday
Sgt Pepper/The End
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nobodytoldme wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
oobu24 wrote:
Apple jacket wrote:
I think Paul is as frustrated as us that he doesn't get the opportunity to play more of his solo stuff, in fact i've read an interview with him when he's said as much. He commented that when he plays non beatles/wings stuff the audience go quiet. So frustrating!
That is actually his own fault. If he had been adding more songs from his solo career rather than Beatles songs, people would know them by now. I'd love to see a show where songs from the last 30 years are featured along with a few of his all time standards.
Exactly !! I have said it before and will say it again, so what if the audience goes quiet for a few solo songs. He gets plenty of applause for the hits so he should be able to handle polite applause for a few songs and actually show the crowd he still has written some excellent music since 1982 !!!
This. And he got plenty of opportunities to play the material he allegedly wants to play. But even during the promo gigs around a new album, or during intimate "fan only" shows, he just plays the same ol' same ol' with maybe a token cover.
I agree. If there was ever a time to "wing" it, the promo shows would be the perfect opportunity to do some solo songs never done or rarely done live. These are surprise gigs and he does not have to worry about upsetting a paying audience by not playing the hits.
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thomascbullock wrote:
oobu24 wrote:
That is actually his own fault. If he had been adding more songs from his solo career rather than Beatles songs, people would know them by now. I'd love to see a show where songs from the last 30 years are featured along with a few of his all time standards.
There was a moment to change this, and it was in 2002/3. If he'd kept late 80s/90s songs in the set then, he'd have established a useful precedent that the shows were not going to be '63-'82 + the current album. Imagine if the Driving USA/Back in the US/Back in the World setlist had looked more like this... I bet more of his solo catalog would still be in the show:
The World Tonight
Jet
My Brave Face
Getting Better
Coming Up
Let Me Roll It
Lonely Road
Driving Rain
Run Devil Run
Souvenir
Your Loving Flame
Blackbird
Every Night
We Can Work It Out
You Never Give Me Your Money/Carry That Weight
The Fool On The Hill
Here Today
Something
Calico Skies
Put It There
Band On The Run
Back in The USSR
Maybe I’m Amazed
Cmon People
From a Lover to a Friend
About You
Can’t Buy Me Love
Live and Let Die
Let it Be
Beautiful Night
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Long and Winding Road
Honey Hush
Flaming Pie
I Saw Her Standing There
—
Yesterday
Sgt Pepper/The End
Exactly, that was the moment he could have done anything he wanted IMO. He had brand new band, new album out and he had not toured in almost a decade so it is not like the audience had any specific expectations.
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nobodytoldme wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
oobu24 wrote:
Apple jacket wrote:
I think Paul is as frustrated as us that he doesn't get the opportunity to play more of his solo stuff, in fact i've read an interview with him when he's said as much. He commented that when he plays non beatles/wings stuff the audience go quiet. So frustrating!
That is actually his own fault. If he had been adding more songs from his solo career rather than Beatles songs, people would know them by now. I'd love to see a show where songs from the last 30 years are featured along with a few of his all time standards.
Exactly !! I have said it before and will say it again, so what if the audience goes quiet for a few solo songs. He gets plenty of applause for the hits so he should be able to handle polite applause for a few songs and actually show the crowd he still has written some excellent music since 1982 !!!
This. And he got plenty of opportunities to play the material he allegedly wants to play. But even during the promo gigs around a new album, or during intimate "fan only" shows, he just plays the same ol' same ol' with maybe a token cover.
Isn't it strange that he didn't play more from the new album at these secret gigs? Like you said "fan only" shows...so there were no first timers to cater to. Lost opportunty.