Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023
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@yankeefan2
Hey Yankeefan...just to complete my thoughts to your last reply about other "leftovers" that could be added to my initial 22 track list proposal.I have to re-listen to "Two Magpies" again. It didn't do much for me on my first listen many years ago, but I should know better how often it is the 5th or 6th listen where a song can really grab you. It is only 2:12 in length so that isn't a problem. I really like Paul's instrumental song called " Squid" but when it was finally "released" (on the Flaming Pie big archive edition) it is way too long (like over 6 minutes). "Squid" could be a very nice track opener to consider but it would have to edited.
After my initial "starter" CD, I put together a 2 CD alternative and I had included "Fabulous" as one of the tracks. It wasn't on the original "Run Devil Run" but it became the B-Side of the lone Single "No Other Baby"from Run Devil Run. It is only 2:17 so it's definitely a good choice and it's not on an original McCartney album.
2 other possible and good choices for "Leftovers" in my opinion are both unreleased songs. One is "Lindiana" and the other is "I Love This House".
From my memory, both songs are too long especially for a compilation CD and would definitely need editing in my opinion.One thing for sure, Paul has plenty of good choices so quality nor quantity is a problem. I still love the idea of a compilation containing predominantly rare songs that were not on any of Paul's original Post-Beatle Albums.
If you look at my "Starter Cd" songs, almost all of them are relatively "unknown" and are good songs imho. "Goodbye" and especially "Maybe I'm Amazed" are the exceptions but I think you need them to help with the initial sales of a new Compilation. By adding "Jimmy's introduction" to MIA, it really makes it more of a "Rarity type track" and Nancy felt that "Goodbye" was mostly unknown to the majority of its "Target" audience. I certainly trust her judgement.
I still like Bruce's original idea the best towards this idea. Begin this package as a 1 CD Starter Set with about 20 tracks. In this way, the compilation CD could have a very inexpensive "selling price" initially. After it is successful, you could have a "Pre-Sold Follow-Up Set" with about the same # of tracks. Because of doing the "Leftovers and Rarities" concept and how prolific a writer Paul is, you wouldn't have the "duplication" problem that Paul's previous compilations have had.
I think the key to the success of this project is selecting the best "Leftovers and Rarities" songs initially. Please take a look at these 22 tracks and let us know if any of those songs should not be on the "Starter" CD. There are 2 or 3 that I'm second guessing myself but I'll wait and see to get other opinions.
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I am not a fan of country music so if it was up to me, I would remove "Sally G". The quality of the song is fine, just not a fan of the genre. "I Can't Imagine" does nothing for me, I was not a fan of "Cmon People" either -lol.
BTW - I don't get why you think Jimmy's introduction (Maybe I'm Amazed) was so fabulous. At best, it was cute calling it a "piano" tune from a few albums back which as we all know was not a Wings album -lol.
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Thanks as always Yankeefan. Thank God for you and Nancy. It's obvious that not too many people have any interest in this topic. As a big fan of Paul McCartney since 1964, I have always found his B-Sides and unreleased songs to be fascinating but that's just a small audience I guess. Once I put these lists together and heard them again on YouTube, I was surprised how good many of them are. In some cases they are better than some of the songs that actually made the original albums during the corresponding time period when they were written. I guess that you almost have to be a hardcore fan to be interested. That is why I agree with you that the idea of an "Leftovers and Rarities" album does not have a large enough audience to be realistic. That is also why I liked Bruce's idea of an "1 CD Starter Package" to begin a Leftovers and Rarities Album/CD . By making it relatively small, it could have an introductory retail price of under $10.00. This along with good reviews and publicity would get "casual" Beatle and Paul fans to give it a chance.
As far as some of the "selected" tracks on my 1 CD to cut, I actually like Sally G quite a bit and it is "unknown" to the majority of Beatle and Paul fans. One thing I always loved about the Beatles is how expansive their genres covered. I always liked the early Beatles' song "In Spite of All the Danger" and some of Paul's other Country type songs in his Post Beatles Career. There are many examples like "Country Dreamer" which is another good B-Side like Sally G.
The other song that Yankeefan felt could be cut is "I Can't Imagine". I agree with this possible cut especially the way the song was finished in the studio even though they initially put it out as a B-Side. Usually Paul and his team would do the "B-Side" as close to perfect as it can be, but in this case (and my opinion) they fell short. "I Can't Imagine" is too long and the chorus is too repetitive. I actually love the chorus but it was repeated once or even twice too many times. Musically I love the portion at the very end so that's not an issue with me. Length can sometimes be a problem with a track and in this case, it was a tad too long and repetitive. Again I've said several times here that "I Can't Imagine" would definitely needs some editing. But I always thought the song had a great deal of potential if it was done correctly.
If there are too many tracks on this CD anyway, a couple of songs I could see cutting from the 22 tracks is:
" Cage" (from the Back to the Egg Sessions) and the very early Paul Solo song called "Love Mix/Waiting for the Sun to Shine". I like both of them but if would be forced to cut, that would be where I would start.
Finally I agree that using the word "Fabulous" to describe Jimmy's introduction to MIA was a bit much (cute would have been better!) but if you have to include MIA for "Sales Purposes" the introductory part would make it more of a "rarity". I have to admit that I don't listen to "live" FM radio very much at all but when I hear MIA as part of a playlist (e.g Spotify, Pandora) I almost always hear the shorter, studio version. Just my experience.
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@yankeefan2 said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
I am not a fan of country music so if it was up to me, I would remove "Sally G". The quality of the song is fine, just not a fan of the genre. "I Can't Imagine" does nothing for me, I was not a fan of "Cmon People" either -lol.
BTW - I don't get why you think Jimmy's introduction (Maybe I'm Amazed) was so fabulous. At best, it was cute calling it a "piano" tune from a few albums back which as we all know was not a Wings album -lol.
I think Sally G is the best country song ever written ( by anybody) and to think it was written by somebody that doesn't even specialise in that type of music, is amazing Once you've got those lyrics imbeded in your noggin, it's darned impossible to hear that song and not sing along to it. Just saying like. Oh! No! NO! NO! NOOOOOO!!! HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!!! I CANT HELP IT!!!! "Somewhere to the south of New York City, lies the friendly state of Tennesy!! Down in Nashville Town I met a pretty. Made a pretty big fool outta me".....
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I will reiterate, "Sally G" is not a bad song it is I am just not a fan of "old time" country music. The song is actually well done, and I agree that not many Beatle/Paul fans know the song. The country music of today is much more "pop" oriented than "Sally G". Your idea, your choice - ha ha.
I will bring up a point about MIA. You can get this song on the album (McCartney) and live versions of the song on the albums "Wings Over America" and "Tripping the Live Fantastic". If you are somebody that might want to buy your compilation, I think you probably have this song and having it on this compilation would not be reason to buy it IMO.
One other thing that I have mentioned before and thought it would be cool for your CD. Paul stated that he had already written 20 songs for the musical "It's A Wonderful Life" and sadly it appears that it will never hit the stage. There has not been any word on this show for several years now. That being said, one or two demos from the songs he wrote for that show might be neat addition to your compilation.
I think I have said plenty on this subject so time to wrap it up with final thoughts. I like the idea of having these "rare" songs on a CD. Your choices of B-sides, live concert cuts and demos are perfect for this type of CD. If I could be picky, I would try to find some song from his sound checks that is not well known and add it to your CD. I will repeat I don't see a project like this happening during Paul's lifetime, MPL is mostly into re-issues. That does not mean this would not be a good idea, maybe many years from now when Paul's estate needs to empty the vaults -lol.
Weather is awful in Charlotte so I will try to find some indoor things to do today, my daughters are coming over later so that will be very nice as always.
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@yankeefan2 said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
I will reiterate, "Sally G" is not a bad song it is I am just not a fan of "old time" country music. The song is actually well done, and I agree that not many Beatle/Paul fans know the song. The country music of today is much more "pop" oriented than "Sally G". Your idea, your choice - ha ha.
I will bring up a point about MIA. You can get this song on the album (McCartney) and live versions of the song on the albums "Wings Over America" and "Tripping the Live Fantastic". If you are somebody that might want to buy your compilation, I think you probably have this song and having it on this compilation would not be reason to buy it IMO.
One other thing that I have mentioned before and thought it would be cool for your CD. Paul stated that he had already written 20 songs for the musical "It's A Wonderful Life" and sadly it appears that it will never hit the stage. There has not been any word on this show for several years now. That being said, one or two demos from the songs he wrote for that show might be neat addition to your compilation.
I think I have said plenty on this subject so time to wrap it up with final thoughts. I like the idea of having these "rare" songs on a CD. Your choices of B-sides, live concert cuts and demos are perfect for this type of CD. If I could be picky, I would try to find some song from his sound checks that is not well known and add it to your CD. I will repeat I don't see a project like this happening during Paul's lifetime, MPL is mostly into re-issues. That does not mean this would not be a good idea, maybe many years from now when Paul's estate needs to empty the vaults -lol.
Weather is awful in Charlotte so I will try to find some indoor things to do today, my daughters are coming over later so that will be very nice as always.
You could always play Beatles Monopoly. It's very good!
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@wandy
Had no idea there was a "Beatles Monopoly" -lol. Listened to some music (McCartney, Foo Fighters, Wolfgang Van Halen), played backgammon with my wife and started new book (Death in The City Of Bridges). I don't cook very often but I made chili for dinner.
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@yankeefan2 said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@wandy
Had no idea there was a "Beatles Monopoly" -lol. Listed to some music (McCartney, Foo Fighters, Wolfgang Van Halen), played backgammon with my wife and started new book (Death in The City Of Bridges). I don't cook very often but I made chili for dinner.
I'll be round about 8pm ( got any potato chips?)
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@yankeefan2 said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@wandy
Had no idea there was a "Beatles Monopoly" -lol. Listed to some music (McCartney, Foo Fighters, Wolfgang Van Halen), played backgammon with my wife and started new book (Death in The City Of Bridges). I don't cook very often but I made chili for dinner.
Yes, there’s Beatles Trivial Pursuit, Monopoly and Scrabble! I have the first two.
I just looked on Amazon and the Monopoly one I have cost $120! I got it when it came out in 2008 for a lot less! They don’t even have the Scrabble one - probably on eBay though. -
@njr said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@yankeefan2 said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@wandy
Had no idea there was a "Beatles Monopoly" -lol. Listed to some music (McCartney, Foo Fighters, Wolfgang Van Halen), played backgammon with my wife and started new book (Death in The City Of Bridges). I don't cook very often but I made chili for dinner.
Yes, there’s Beatles Trivial Pursuit, Monopoly and Scrabble! I have the first two.
I just looked on Amazon and the Monopoly one I have cost $120! I got it when it came out in 2008 for a lot less! They don’t even have the Scrabble one - probably on eBay though.I got my Beatles Monopoly in The Helter-skelter cafe next door to the St Johns Wood underground station. Cost about £35.
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@wandy said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@njr said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@yankeefan2 said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@wandy
Had no idea there was a "Beatles Monopoly" -lol. Listed to some music (McCartney, Foo Fighters, Wolfgang Van Halen), played backgammon with my wife and started new book (Death in The City Of Bridges). I don't cook very often but I made chili for dinner.
Yes, there’s Beatles Trivial Pursuit, Monopoly and Scrabble! I have the first two.
I just looked on Amazon and the Monopoly one I have cost $120! I got it when it came out in 2008 for a lot less! They don’t even have the Scrabble one - probably on eBay though.I got my Beatles Monopoly in The Helter-skelter cafe next door to the St Johns Wood underground station. Cost about £35.
Yikes!
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@njr
BJ On my 22 Track "Starter CD" (On this page) what are your favorite 5 or 6? and Why?A Love For You - Definitely one of my favorites, it has such a feel good, happy vibe. Love Paul's Ram-Like vocals. Paul did some overdubs in 1980 for the "In-Laws Movie Soundtrack and I think it's the best version.
On the Wings of a Nightingale - Another favorite of mine. Still amazing that Paul wrote this "On Demand" for the Everly Brothers comeback Album. Love Paul's demo version.
Yvonne's the One - Always loved this Unreleased song written by Paul and Eric Stewart during the Press to Play Sessions. Can't believe it didn't make the cut for either the finished Album or CD. Love Paul's Demo Version.
Loveliest Thing - Another terrific Ballad. Paul used the great Phil Ramone as his Producer and members of Billy Joel's Band. Great Electric Guitar Solo by David Brown.
Back On My Feet- I think that Paul's simple Demo is the best version. Just Paul at the piano and I love his vocals. Just my opinion, but I think it's slightly better than the released B-Side version. One of Paul and Elvis Costello Cowrites.
Flying to My Home - Love this Country / Rock styled Song. Can't believe it didn't make the cut for the original Flowers in the Dirt Album or CD. Love Robbie McIntosh's Lead Guitar.
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@njr said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@beatlesfanrandy said in Paul McCartney- New Album for 2023:
@njr Streaming has taken over as the predominant music listening format. The Vinyl comeback continues to grow. But even with all the beautiful Deluxe Box Sets, like McCartney's Archive Collection, CD sales are disappearing. There are fewer and fewer CD outlets, and even Target has gotten rid of most new CD releases. Sadly but true, the shiny silver disc which all but destroyed the Vinyl business, is nearly at its end.
And that pisses me off! 🤬
Me too!!!!
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@b-j-conlee
I chose my 6 favorite songs on the proposed "Leftovers and Rarities" Album for 2023. What are a couple of your favorites from the 22 tracks?Of my 6, I do think there are a couple that could be released as "Singles" in specific categories:
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A Love for You - for Top 40 Format
I think this song is a good candidate for "Top 40" because it is very commercial with a lot of Hooks. It also is a "feel good, happy type song for the younger audience. -
Flying To My Home - for Rock Format
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Loveliest Thing - for Adult Contemporary / Rock and Country Format
Any other "favorites" from my 22 track proposed "Leftovers and Rarities" Album /CD. Any other songs that are commercial enough for a separate "Single" Release.
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@b-j-conlee
I made a mistake one of my favorite songs on the proposed 22 Track Leftovers and Rarities Album/CD for 2023. Let me repeat my favorite 6:A Love for You
On the Wings of a Nightingale
Yvonne's the One
Loveliest Thing
Back on My Feet
Flying to My Home
- On "Flying to My Home" I had stated that Robbie McIntosh played "Lead Guitar" on this great track. Actually Robbie didn't join Paul's Band until the "Off the Ground" Sessions began the following year. Looking at the musicians on "Flying to My Home", Paul himself played "Lead Guitar" and Hamish Stuart played "Slide Guitar". Either way the song is great in my opinion.
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@b-j-conlee
Maybe someone can post the "Flying to My Home" video here. Can't believe it wasn't on the original "Flowers in the Dirt" album. In my opinion, the "My Brave Face/Flying to My Home" single is one of the best of all time. -
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Thanks for putting the "Flying to My Home" video on Maccaboard. This song along with "On the Wings of a Nightingale" and "Yvonne's the One" alone makes a strong case for Paul needing a "Leftovers and Rarities" type album.
I'm starting to come around to the idea of pulling MIA from this proposed album. It is too "known" and is already on multiple "McCartney" Solo albums. I just listened to the "Return to Lindiana" unreleased song and it could be a good replacement for MIA. "Lindianna" is certainly unknown/rare to most Beatle and Paul fans. It would probably have to be "edited" to make it a little shorter in length but it's a beautiful ballad.
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@b-j-conlee
Another reason for Paul to do this "proposed" album (Leftovers and Rarities) is that most (or even all) of these tracks are not presently on Spotify or Pandora. That alone would give them more exposure/airplay.
While I agree that it would be a "slow" seller initially, in the long run, it would be a strong seller.
Compared to other compilations, it definitely wouldn't have the "duplication" issues. Most Beatle and Paul fans eventually would want to own it in my opinion.