New in the Charts Thread
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Looking at her should be the next single with a video of Paul on guitar solo without bringing cinma stars doing nothing in a video! this song will introduce Paul to new and fresh fans that can be curious and buy the album again.
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Frank:
Paul Down to 96 in its 5th week in the UK....someone from Britain please explain ? Rod Stewart with new material is at 31 in its 27th week Cher at 56 Elton John at 90 in its 9th week Bowie at 94...week 36
I give up.
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Don't understand it myself... everybody keeps referring to Paul as the world's biggest rock star, and yet he's getting outsold by Rod flipping Stewart ?!!!!! It's true enough - we brits don't deserve Paul . He should just do a Ringo and concentrate his energies in America, where he seems to get the adulation he deserves... The only thing is, my wee 5 year old boy , Joel (McCartney) Blackwood is desperate to see him live ... he's the only one in my family who didn't go to Hampden park in 2010 ... Maybe it would help if the record company got the finger out , and got the vinyl released :
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well, let´s say something, how can many people be so amazed by the chart performance of Paul new record in the UK? i expected worse! the man is hated in UK for so long they favoured Rod, Elton;Cliff...you named!The people who love Paul in the UK well almost is a rare group of people i think that they even feel bad for liking Paul in their homeland! yes it´s true ,very sad but true! they show no respect for the man who put british music in the world map! without Paul who bloody knows a thing about british music? he open the doors!! but they hated him, how this could be...i don´t know!now two good news for us... in Japan "New" is still selling well currently at number 8 (He opens there at number 2, the best since "Tug of war" in 1982 and we are talking about the second biggest world music market behind the USA!) in other big market,one of the 10 world big music markets, Brazil, he open last week at number 16 and this week is up to number 9!! the best i see him do there in many years!!!! let´s face it the record is very good and not all in the world have the bad tastes of the british people!!!!
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Please stop talking about the great "NEW" record based only in sales of one country(UK) you people see the world chart that compiled all the charts in the world? The NEW record opens at numer 3 Cher not nearly ,Elton the same, Sting the same...give me a break in 7 weeks in the chart Cher sells the same that Macca in 4 weeks in the chart!!!we like Paul and the only sad thing is his homeland hate the man (in the seventies he don´t leave UK because the taxes ,he loves UK!but Elton leave, the Stones leave....) see my point, the new record by the Beatles "On Air" debuts at number 12!!! Elvis do better, Cliff do better... Paul leave the UK !and go to the USA and get there the green card is better be in a country that really love you!!!!
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B J Conlee:
Teddy Boy22:
audi:
RMartinez:
To go Gold or Platinum is certainly success. But it is relative in the music biz. If you are a young, new act, those numbers are brilliant. But if I recall, Michael Jackson's THRILLER sold something like 25 million copies. I remember the press writing that BAD was a failure because it sold only 10 million or something like that, as a follow up. McCartney has himself to compete with. His LP and CD sales are respectable. But I am sure the man would still like to see his work sell like BOTR or WOA. NEW is a really good CD that is doing reasonably well. I am sure Macca can handle that!
I think he could live with the overall sales, too -- as long as the album reached No. 1 album in America. As much as I love the album, I am personally ticked-off that it didn't get to No. 1. And, as usual, I blame the concerted lack of radio airplay.
I completely agree!!! I am convinced that if it were receiving more radio play the album would be a bigger "hit." How is Cher above Paul in the US charts? Probably because it's getting more airplay for whatever reason. Radio play is where it's at these days, as well as in the "early days." In my opinion it'll make you or break you.
_________________________________________ Yes, lack of radio airplay has significantly hurt but in my opinion, the lack of big US TV Appearances by Paul (especially after NEW became available to buy - 10/15) has hurt sales even more. I actually think that NEW is doing "well" considering the total lack of publicity and appearances in the US. NEW is at #40 on Billboard which is respectable considering all the new Christmas albums "now" above him. Since Paul is on tour in Japan, NEW is selling almost totally on "Word of Mouth" Paul's core audience in the US (baby boomers) are gradually hearing about the quality of NEW from other people or reviews and are slowly getting around to buying. While these numbers are certainly not best selling numbers, it does show that it is working albeit slowly. I still have hope that NEW can be in the top 20-40 as late as next February-March-April etc. The whole key is if Paul decides to do a US tour starting lets say in March. I am also assuming that Paul plays a good number of NEW songs live (hopefully 5 or 6). A tour coupled with all the 50th Anniversary Beatles in America publicity would give NEW "new life". Even a great CD like NEW needs strong Marketing, Promotion and Publicity. Unfortunately, this has not been the case so far and that is a crime in my opinion. But if Paul really wants it and a national US tour is announced, he still has time. The Cher question is a good one. She is at #33 now (after 7 weeks) 7 slots ahead of Paul. The big difference is that Cher was everywhere with appearances after her album was available. She appeared on all the talk shows as well as her big appearance on Dancing with the Stars. On top of that, she announced a major US tour starting in March 2014 and with every ticket purchased, a FREE copy of her new CD is received. With all of this Marketing going on, it isn't surprising that the album is still at #33. NEW hasn't had anything close to this publicity. As I said, for Paul to be at #40 after 4 weeks, isn't bad at all considering the total lack of US publicity particularly over the last 3 weeks. NEW is selling now almost exclusively on good reviews and word of mouth.
Actually, while TV appearances would help, that's not all that's doing it for Cher. She has a hit on the Dance/Club play chart, currently at #26 after peaking at #1.
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Ammar:
Looking at her should be the next single with a video of Paul on guitar solo without bringing cinma stars doing nothing in a video! this song will introduce Paul to new and fresh fans that can be curious and buy the album again.
Why on earth would anyone want to release the album's lamest song as a single?????
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It's the "lamest song" to you, Bruce, while to some others, it's a rare jewel, remember. Art or art appreciation is subjective. Regarding record sales, I read online tonight that Lady Gaga's "ArtPop" new album is considered a flop, projected to sell just 250,000 copies its first week and that it's lost "twenty five million" dollars in marketing, promotion, etc. costs for its record label--and "50 to 100" jobs at that label will be terminated on that account. I also read that Miley Cyrus' and Katy Perry's new albums are considered disappointments sales-wise--having each sold below 300,000 units their first week. Elton John stated that charting high and going platinum are not where it's at for him anymore, he doesn't get to have that anymore and is the most interested in "going forward musically" with his art, in his career now. He was thrilled that T Bone Burnett produced his latest " The Diving Board" and took it in a new more basic direction going back to his beginnings or roots, when he first started out playing in clubs. Why is Japan "the second biggest music market" in the world? This goes towards explaining the extra 'Struggle' song they got and the spate of tours, I suppose, also Paul hadn't toured there in over a decade (?). Which opens another can of worms--why'd he get treated like that by them all those years ago just for having eight ounces of marijuana? He's forgiven, or been forgiven, but may find it hard to have forgotten.
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Bruce M.:
Ammar:
Looking at her should be the next single with a video of Paul on guitar solo without bringing cinma stars doing nothing in a video! this song will introduce Paul to new and fresh fans that can be curious and buy the album again.
Why on earth would anyone want to release the album's lamest song as a single?????
Maybe because others on earth have ears and taste that are different from yours!
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Well said buddy !
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Bruce M.:
Ammar:
Looking at her should be the next single with a video of Paul on guitar solo without bringing cinma stars doing nothing in a video! this song will introduce Paul to new and fresh fans that can be curious and buy the album again.
Why on earth would anyone want to release the album's lamest song as a single?????
Well IMO the Honours go to On My Way To Work for lamest Song. But i would agree that Looking At Her is the Runner up. I'm just wondering why Save Us isn't the single. Paul's best Riff in decades and instantly recognisable
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Ammar:
Bruce M.:
Ammar:
Looking at her should be the next single with a video of Paul on guitar solo without bringing cinma stars doing nothing in a video! this song will introduce Paul to new and fresh fans that can be curious and buy the album again.
Why on earth would anyone want to release the album's lamest song as a single?????
Maybe because others on earth have ears and taste that are different from yours!
Yes, exactly! This song does have a lot of modern production touches, and it's more of a straightforward pop song in many ways than some others on the album. Not one of my personal favorites, but I don't dislike it either. I still think that Beatles nostalgia (and the holiday season) is going to bury any chance for another Paul single for a few months, though.
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Frank:
Paul Down to 96 in its 5th week in the UK....someone from Britain please explain ? Rod Stewart with new material is at 31 in its 27th week Cher at 56 Elton John at 90 in its 9th week Bowie at 94...week 36
Rod Stewart is the key i think here,he released that album perfectly,its a good one too that helps (though NEW is too but hey ho) Stewart has pretty much kept his head down over the last couple of years and when he finally surfaced people,in my view,were ready for him as they'd missed him,hell even his Christmas album from last year is back in the charts,its the '70's all over again for him he's that popular at the moment. Ive said it time and again NEW was poorly timed in its release date going against the big guns it had no room whatsoever to grow its audience and thats the shame of it,its far better than most of the stuff it competed against,but i cant help but feel Paul is,to the greater public outside of his fanbase damaged goods,someone who is or has become a bore,a man who will go to the opening of an envelope a man who i feel now wont be appreciated till he's not making music anymore
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SusyLuvsPaul:
It's the "lamest song" to you, Bruce, while to some others, it's a rare jewel, remember. Art or art appreciation is subjective. Regarding record sales, I read online tonight that Lady Gaga's "ArtPop" new album is considered a flop, projected to sell just 250,000 copies its first week and that it's lost "twenty five million" dollars in marketing, promotion, etc. costs for its record label--and "50 to 100" jobs at that label will be terminated on that account. I also read that Miley Cyrus' and Katy Perry's new albums are considered disappointments sales-wise--having each sold below 300,000 units their first week. Elton John stated that charting high and going platinum are not where it's at for him anymore, he doesn't get to have that anymore and is the most interested in "going forward musically" with his art, in his career now. He was thrilled that T Bone Burnett produced his latest " The Diving Board" and took it in a new more basic direction going back to his beginnings or roots, when he first started out playing in clubs. Why is Japan "the second biggest music market" in the world? This goes towards explaining the extra 'Struggle' song they got and the spate of tours, I suppose, also Paul hadn't toured there in over a decade (?). Which opens another can of worms--why'd he get treated like that by them all those years ago just for having eight ounces of marijuana? He's forgiven, or been forgiven, but may find it hard to have forgotten.
Yes, I think there's a general sense of "blockbuster fatigue" going on. Even Justin Timberlake fell victim to it this fall: his comeback album earlier this year did very well, but the "sequel" this fall is just doing okay in comparison, and hasn't produced anything close to a Top 10 hit. This has been kind of a remarkable two-month period of huge stars all releasing albums so close together, and with the huge success of the singer Lorde, it seems clear that the public is tired of being pummeled with the familiar and wants something truly new. (But not "New," apparently. )
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crazymacca:
Please stop talking about the great "NEW" record based only in sales of one country(UK) you people see the world chart that compiled all the charts in the world? The NEW record opens at numer 3 Cher not nearly ,Elton the same, Sting the same...give me a break in 7 weeks in the chart Cher sells the same that Macca in 4 weeks in the chart!!!we like Paul and the only sad thing is his homeland hate the man (in the seventies he don´t leave UK because the taxes ,he loves UK!but Elton leave, the Stones leave....) see my point, the new record by the Beatles "On Air" debuts at number 12!!! Elvis do better, Cliff do better... Paul leave the UK !and go to the USA and get there the green card is better be in a country that really love you!!!!
I'd assume chart performance is based on the countries America and Britain and number 1 in those 2 places far outweigh the fact of having a number 1 in say Japan or Norway,i suppose it goes back to the start of the charts and ad men can put the fact of an artists album performance on poster number 1 in the USA,UK,etc. Not saying thats the sole reason but i'd hazard a guess thats why people take more noticed of those 2 countries charts.
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hengirl:
Frank:
Paul Down to 96 in its 5th week in the UK....someone from Britain please explain ? Rod Stewart with new material is at 31 in its 27th week Cher at 56 Elton John at 90 in its 9th week Bowie at 94...week 36
Rod Stewart is the key i think here,he released that album perfectly,its a good one too that helps (though NEW is too but hey ho) Stewart has pretty much kept his head down over the last couple of years and when he finally surfaced people,in my view,were ready for him as they'd missed him,hell even his Christmas album from last year is back in the charts,its the '70's all over again for him he's that popular at the moment. Ive said it time and again NEW was poorly timed in its release date going against the big guns it had no room whatsoever to grow its audience and thats the shame of it,its far better than most of the stuff it competed against,but i cant help but feel Paul is,to the greater public outside of his fanbase damaged goods,someone who is or has become a bore,a man who will go to the opening of an envelope a man who i feel now wont be appreciated till he's not making music anymore
Rod's album kind of bombed over here in the U.S., though. Quite funny how some people here think Paul has been way too visible, while others think he hasn't been nearly visible enough!
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Frank:
Paul Down to 96 in its 5th week in the UK....someone from Britain please explain ?
Well, non-Paul McCartney fans are not showing any interest in it basically. And its got nothing to do with radio plays, marketing or the time of year the album has been released. Paul's popularity as a recording artist has been dwindling away for the last thirty odd years although he does remain very popular as a performing artist. Naturally there will always be people who want to go and gawp at an 'ex-Beatle' whilst the opportunity is still there.....and to revisit the soundtrack of their youth by the 'original artist'. In all honesty, who would want to listen to (for example) 'On My Way To Work' other than a paul McCartney fan?
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Pipes of Peace (1983) was the Last Studio album Certified platinum in the US, by far the biggest market. All his post - Beatles albums up to that Date - with exceptions Wild Life, Red Rose and Mccartey 2 which were Certified Gold - reached at least single platinum status. Back in the US, apart from being a live album, did not sell 1 Million in the US . It reached platinum as a Double -CD : threshold 500.000. There is no Studio album with new material after Pipes selling more than 2 Million copies worldwide. Quite a few albums from the mid-eighties onwards sold well under 2 Million. But just to let you know that commercial success is not essential for making me happy : Driving Rain is probably my favourite from the past decade. And i'm pretty sure that it did not Even sell 1 million worldwide. You are wrong!! MAF sold more than 2 million worldwide (in his official site you can read that). Back in the US sold more than 1 million US alone (RIAA said that). Wingspan sold more than 1 million US alone (RIAA said that). Band on the run and several albums by Paul are out to date, a newspaper told in 1975 that BOTR sold 1.5 million UK alone and more than 6 million (US alone - I will look for it and post later). MAF ended the year in the best sellers worldwide, selling more than Jlo, Britney, Foo Fighters, U2 and Elton John in that end year (to say a few names). I have sources for all of that. Is that a failure? C´mon, MAF was released in 2007 (not so long ago) and ended the year among the best sellers. Not to mention his tours, always number one since 2002. If that is a artist who is irrelevant I don´t even Know what to say anymore.
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hengirl:
Frank:
Paul Down to 96 in its 5th week in the UK....someone from Britain please explain ? Rod Stewart with new material is at 31 in its 27th week Cher at 56 Elton John at 90 in its 9th week Bowie at 94...week 36
Rod Stewart is the key i think here,he released that album perfectly,its a good one too that helps (though NEW is too but hey ho) Stewart has pretty much kept his head down over the last couple of years and when he finally surfaced people,in my view,were ready for him as they'd missed him,hell even his Christmas album from last year is back in the charts,its the '70's all over again for him he's that popular at the moment. Ive said it time and again NEW was poorly timed in its release date going against the big guns it had no room whatsoever to grow its audience and thats the shame of it,its far better than most of the stuff it competed against,but i cant help but feel Paul is,to the greater public outside of his fanbase damaged goods,someone who is or has become a bore,a man who will go to the opening of an envelope a man who i feel now wont be appreciated till he's not making music anymore
Rod's album kind of bombed over here in the U.S., though. Quite funny how some people here think Paul has been way too visible, while others think he hasn't been nearly visible enough!
LOL, I agree and i fall into both the visible enough and the not visible enough camps i love seeing him live but i can see why people think he's out too much..it baffles me as to why NEW bombed here,its a fine album,but to release it when he did was always going to be a struggle and its a shame. As for Rod though he's played a blinder this year,its almost as if the TV has rediscovered him documentaries,the xmas show last year has all added up to the success of time in the UK,i wonder though if people and the market can only tolerate one or two of these Old stars and maybe that's a factor,who knows.
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I talked to two friends of mine last week about Paul´s new album. They are big fans of him, cried in his concerts, have many solo cds, but they even Knew about this one. And when I´ve said it, they only said: great, I will download it and heard it, can´t wait People just don´t buy cds anymore. I talked to other one and he said: yes, I´ve heard, loved My Valentine. I answered: It´s not that one And he didn´t know. Don´t understand, but I think that he needs a tour, right now! Yes, he´s doing great in Japan, Norway,Brazil, Argentina...but in UK he´s not doing well in many many years. And I don´t know why. He´s hated there? Bullshit!