Set List critique
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"Somewhere back up on this thread someone felt Paul was making an excuse and wasn't being totally honest with saying he had nightmares about people walking out of a concert when he wasn't playing Beatles. Maybe so but I think he is suffering not only from lockdown but from the one-two Beatles punch of late last yesterday"
Pun intended (lol) "That Was Me" (great song that he should have played more than once live). Once again nobody is saying anymore that setlist should not be Beatle heavy. Just do a better job of mixing in some new solo songs to relpace older solo ones. Also, replace 2nd tier Beatle songs (In Spite Of All Danger & Benefit For Mr. Kite) with Beatle songs he never done before live. I made suggestions but not picky, there are still good ones to choose from and he could still sing them.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
"One last thing, why Paul isn't opening the "Got Back Tour" with "Find My Way" still baffles me. I now can only imagine Paul and Band (including his Horn players) opening this tour with "Find My Way" still blows my mind. The 2nd song after "Find My Way" should be "Seize the Day". Another great Solo song and Paul isn't playing either one of them. As someone elso said, if we could only get 15 minutes with him alone. He still may not play these relatively "new" songs on this tour, but at least he would hear our opinion from a devoted, biig time fan. So many great Solo Songs that the large percentage of Beatle fans should know."
I agree with Paul doing "Find My Way" as a opener, catchy uptempo song that even if you don't know it (and 95% of the audience would be clueless) I still think it would go over well. While I like "Seize The Day" following it, this is Paul we are talking about and his"nightmares" people would walk out - OMG. Follow "Find My Way" with "Got To Get You Into My Life" to get the first timers excited and another song that utilizes the horn section. Play "Seize the Day" in the spot where he plays "Come On To Me" and he fits in new song but does not take away a song the first timers would love. Really, this stuff is not that hard to do if he would give it a try.
Hey Yankeefan...agree 100%. Can you imagine those horn players along with Paul and Band playing "Find My Way" opening the show. Even if some in the audience aren't that familiar with it....it is very catchy and they would like it.
I can also imagine Rusty and Brian playing their guitars to "Seize the Day". Again another catchy song and a great substitiute for "Come On To Me".
Finally, can you imagine Paul and Band playing "Slidin" instead of "Helter Skelter" during the Encore Section. Again, I think that "Slidin" is as good as "Helter Skelter" and imagine Rusty, Brian and/or Paul playing on the guitar parts.
Anyway, just dreaming of course. I'm glad I'm not in the Orlando FL area this weekend. On top of Disney, Seaworld and everything else, Paul is playing in a Stadium show on Saturday night in Orlando. Does anyone know the capacity for the Stadium show there.
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B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"One last thing, why Paul isn't opening the "Got Back Tour" with "Find My Way" still baffles me. I now can only imagine Paul and Band (including his Horn players) opening this tour with "Find My Way" still blows my mind. The 2nd song after "Find My Way" should be "Seize the Day". Another great Solo song and Paul isn't playing either one of them. As someone elso said, if we could only get 15 minutes with him alone. He still may not play these relatively "new" songs on this tour, but at least he would hear our opinion from a devoted, biig time fan. So many great Solo Songs that the large percentage of Beatle fans should know."
I agree with Paul doing "Find My Way" as a opener, catchy uptempo song that even if you don't know it (and 95% of the audience would be clueless) I still think it would go over well. While I like "Seize The Day" following it, this is Paul we are talking about and his"nightmares" people would walk out - OMG. Follow "Find My Way" with "Got To Get You Into My Life" to get the first timers excited and another song that utilizes the horn section. Play "Seize the Day" in the spot where he plays "Come On To Me" and he fits in new song but does not take away a song the first timers would love. Really, this stuff is not that hard to do if he would give it a try.
Hey Yankeefan...agree 100%. Can you imagine those horn players along with Paul and Band playing "Find My Way" opening the show. Even if some in the audience aren't that familiar with it....it is very catchy and they would like it.
I can also imagine Rusty and Brian playing their guitars to "Seize the Day". Again another catchy song and a great substitiute for "Come On To Me".
Finally, can you imagine Paul and Band playing "Slidin" instead of "Helter Skelter" during the Encore Section. Again, I think that "Slidin" is as good as "Helter Skelter" and imagine Rusty, Brian and/or Paul playing on the guitar parts.
Anyway, just dreaming of course. I'm glad I'm not in the Orlando FL area this weekend. On top of Disney, Seaworld and everything else, Paul is playing in a Stadium show on Saturday night in Orlando. Does anyone know the capacity for the Stadium show there.
https://www.campingworldstadium.com/about/reconstruction
There are 41,000 seats, not including the seats that will be on the field for the concert!
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NJR wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"One last thing, why Paul isn't opening the "Got Back Tour" with "Find My Way" still baffles me. I now can only imagine Paul and Band (including his Horn players) opening this tour with "Find My Way" still blows my mind. The 2nd song after "Find My Way" should be "Seize the Day". Another great Solo song and Paul isn't playing either one of them. As someone elso said, if we could only get 15 minutes with him alone. He still may not play these relatively "new" songs on this tour, but at least he would hear our opinion from a devoted, biig time fan. So many great Solo Songs that the large percentage of Beatle fans should know."
I agree with Paul doing "Find My Way" as a opener, catchy uptempo song that even if you don't know it (and 95% of the audience would be clueless) I still think it would go over well. While I like "Seize The Day" following it, this is Paul we are talking about and his"nightmares" people would walk out - OMG. Follow "Find My Way" with "Got To Get You Into My Life" to get the first timers excited and another song that utilizes the horn section. Play "Seize the Day" in the spot where he plays "Come On To Me" and he fits in new song but does not take away a song the first timers would love. Really, this stuff is not that hard to do if he would give it a try.
Hey Yankeefan...agree 100%. Can you imagine those horn players along with Paul and Band playing "Find My Way" opening the show. Even if some in the audience aren't that familiar with it....it is very catchy and they would like it.
I can also imagine Rusty and Brian playing their guitars to "Seize the Day". Again another catchy song and a great substitiute for "Come On To Me".
Finally, can you imagine Paul and Band playing "Slidin" instead of "Helter Skelter" during the Encore Section. Again, I think that "Slidin" is as good as "Helter Skelter" and imagine Rusty, Brian and/or Paul playing on the guitar parts.
Anyway, just dreaming of course. I'm glad I'm not in the Orlando FL area this weekend. On top of Disney, Seaworld and everything else, Paul is playing in a Stadium show on Saturday night in Orlando. Does anyone know the capacity for the Stadium show there.
https://www.campingworldstadium.com/about/reconstruction
There are 41,000 seats, not including the seats that will be on the field for the concert!
Thanks Nancy. Looks like a very nice stadium!
We're in Atlantic City NJ right now but that is one show on this "Got Back" tour I would have considered attending. Not sure I would have paid that much based on thes prices but I would be tempted. The Setlist however would still bother me even if I could attend.
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NJR wrote:
george_e_girl wrote:
NJR wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
NJR wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"While hard core Paul fans like you and me get tired of McCartney's same songs and stories, I totally understand that for first timers and casual fans, they eat up the stories told from an actual Beatle himself. "
Yes, if you are hearing it for the 1rst or even 2nd time, the stories are pretty cool. Paul is not that naive to think everybody at the show has not heard these stories before especially in the youtube world we live in today. Is it that hard for Paul to put a different "spin" on a story he tells about a song?
I have come to grips with him playing most of the same Beatle songs because I get it that these are a big thrill for the majority of the audience. I just get tired of him playing 2nd tier type Beatle songs like "Benefit Of Mr. Kite" or "In Spite Of All Danger" for multiple tours instead of a Beatle song he has never played live.
Totally agree! With all the time off he's had since the 2019 tour ended, you'd think he could have re-learned "I Want To Hold Your Hand" as the opener and dropped the 2 you mentioned for any other John song and maybe blow everyone's minds by doing Rocky Raccoon!
Exactly Nancy. "Rocky Raccoon" is acoustic song that he would not need the band to practice it and it is easy song to sing. The crowd reaction would blow the roof off the arena -lol. "I Want To Hold Your Hand" is midtempo song that is a little over 2 minutes so not that tough to learn again. The entire band could sing the song with Paul to help with vocals because John and Paul sang the entire song together. See link below from Ed Sullivan show. Imagine the reaction in the arena if he opened with it and the media attention it would have grabbed - oh well.
Why don't the Admins of this forum/website ever read what we constantly write and get the message back to Paul?!
I was a moderator about 14 years ago. Unfortunately, they have no way to communicate with Paul.
I agree about Rocky Raccoon!! That would be an absolute blast!!
Not the Moderators, the Administrators. The same people who just posted about the new look of paulmccartney.com and asked for our input.
Sorry, my bad. Yes, I would hope the Admins have regular communications with Paul.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
"Somewhere back up on this thread someone felt Paul was making an excuse and wasn't being totally honest with saying he had nightmares about people walking out of a concert when he wasn't playing Beatles. Maybe so but I think he is suffering not only from lockdown but from the one-two Beatles punch of late last yesterday"
Pun intended (lol) "That Was Me" (great song that he should have played more than once live). Once again nobody is saying anymore that setlist should not be Beatle heavy. Just do a better job of mixing in some new solo songs to relpace older solo ones. Also, replace 2nd tier Beatle songs (In Spite Of All Danger & Benefit For Mr. Kite) with Beatle songs he never done before live. I made suggestions but not picky, there are still good ones to choose from and he could still sing them.
I agree. All that about him so being captivated in the aftermath of Get Back that I wrote was by way of trying to explain his probable mindset, not justifying it. I got to ask, whatever happened to the old-fashioned idea of promoting the new album during a tour that draws people who want to hear their old faves. Somewhere on here someone said the tour booklet had ads, info on McCartney III. He advertised and played songs off newer albums on past tours, especially 1989 tour with the fresh Flowers in the Dirt, first time I saw him.
Bottom line, Paulreally believes in "Carry That Weight"where the Beatles is concerned. Sad that many will have no clue of things like "Find My Way"
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"Anyway, just dreaming of course. I'm glad I'm not in the Orlando FL area this weekend. On top of Disney, Seaworld and everything else, Paul is playing in a Stadium show on Saturday night in Orlando. Does anyone know the capacity for the Stadium show there."
My in-laws will be at that show, they live in Tampa. My sister in-law is big Beatle Paul fan and could care less about his solo albums even though I tried hard to "turn her on" to his solo music. I will get report from my brother in-law who is excellent photographer and I know will also post some you tube clips. I will send you email with some of his clips from the show.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
"Anyway, just dreaming of course. I'm glad I'm not in the Orlando FL area this weekend. On top of Disney, Seaworld and everything else, Paul is playing in a Stadium show on Saturday night in Orlando. Does anyone know the capacity for the Stadium show there."
My in-laws will be at that show, they live in Tampa. My sister in-law is big Beatle Paul fan and could care less about his solo albums even though I tried hard to "turn her on" to his solo music. I will get report from my brother in-law who is excellent photographer and I know will also post some you tube clips. I will send you email with some of his clips from the show.
Thanks Yankeefan. I've driven by "Camping World Stadium". For my wife and me, it is probably only a little over an hour away from our house in Florida.
As I said, if we were at home and not in NJ preparing our Condo for the Renters, I would have been tempted. But I'm sure the prices for 2 tickets would have been very high plus after following the setlists for all the shows on Got Back so far, I would have been furious not to hear live (and with the full Band) such great songs like "Find My Way", "Seize the Day", "Slidin", "I Don't Know" etc. It's not that some of the older Beatle and Solo songs on this Setlist are bad, but I wouldn't have been psyched to hear "Can't Buy Me Love", "Lady Madonna", " We Can Work it Out", "Let Me Roll It", "Let 'm In", "Helter Skelter" etc, again when I could have heard great "new" Solo songs that have never been done "live" in Concert before. What is Paul thinking? .
And don't get me started on some of the recent Solo Paul setlist choices that he continues to play like "Fuh You", and "Come On to Me" when he has far better songs from the same Egypt Station Album. One saving grace...I can always play them on my own CD's and it saved me plenty of money by not attending. Don't get me wrong,.. I would have loved to have heard them in concert but as others have said here...It's not going to happen in 2022. So sad and a real "missed opportunity" for Paul's Legacy. How does he not play "I Don't Know" or "Dominoes" two of his best songs ever...Beatles or Post Beatles". Sorry I'm frustrated and I'm repeating myself. Thanks Guys and Ladies for listening.
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John Mackintosh wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"Somewhere back up on this thread someone felt Paul was making an excuse and wasn't being totally honest with saying he had nightmares about people walking out of a concert when he wasn't playing Beatles. Maybe so but I think he is suffering not only from lockdown but from the one-two Beatles punch of late last yesterday"
Pun intended (lol) "That Was Me" (great song that he should have played more than once live). Once again nobody is saying anymore that setlist should not be Beatle heavy. Just do a better job of mixing in some new solo songs to relpace older solo ones. Also, replace 2nd tier Beatle songs (In Spite Of All Danger & Benefit For Mr. Kite) with Beatle songs he never done before live. I made suggestions but not picky, there are still good ones to choose from and he could still sing them.
I agree. All that about him so being captivated in the aftermath of Get Back that I wrote was by way of trying to explain his probable mindset, not justifying it. I got to ask, whatever happened to the old-fashioned idea of promoting the new album during a tour that draws people who want to hear their old faves. Somewhere on here someone said the tour booklet had ads, info on McCartney III. He advertised and played songs off newer albums on past tours, especially 1989 tour with the fresh Flowers in the Dirt, first time I saw him.
Bottom line, Paulreally believes in "Carry That Weight"where the Beatles is concerned. Sad that many will have no clue of things like "Find My Way"
Have to say I am shocked and disappointed about the lack of songs from "McCartney III". Like you said promote the album and for the life of me I don't understand why they don't have the CD for sale at the concerts (correct me if I am wrong). I also saw him in 1989 and loved that he opened with (Figure Of Eight) from FITD and if my memory is correct he did six songs from that album in the show. I remember an interview of Paul during the 1989 tour and he said he opened up with "Figure Of Eight" because he wanted to be seen as a relevant artist and not one who totally lived in the past. Sadly Paul's mindset changed after that when he toured. I think it is sad also that many will have no clue of a song like "Find My Way" which I love. My question to you and others is do you think any of the first timers at his shows would even try to enjoy a song like "Find My Way" or would they just basically ignore it and wait for the next Beatle song.
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B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"Anyway, just dreaming of course. I'm glad I'm not in the Orlando FL area this weekend. On top of Disney, Seaworld and everything else, Paul is playing in a Stadium show on Saturday night in Orlando. Does anyone know the capacity for the Stadium show there."
My in-laws will be at that show, they live in Tampa. My sister in-law is big Beatle Paul fan and could care less about his solo albums even though I tried hard to "turn her on" to his solo music. I will get report from my brother in-law who is excellent photographer and I know will also post some you tube clips. I will send you email with some of his clips from the show.
Thanks Yankeefan. I've driven by "Camping World Stadium". For my wife and me, it is probably only a little over an hour away from our house in Florida.
As I said, if we were at home and not in NJ preparing our Condo for the Renters, I would have been tempted. But I'm sure the prices for 2 tickets would have been very high plus after following the setlists for all the shows on Got Back so far, I would have been furious not to hear live (and with the full Band) such great songs like "Find My Way", "Seize the Day", "Slidin", "I Don't Know" etc. It's not that some of the older Beatle and Solo songs on this Setlist are bad, but I wouldn't have been psyched to hear "Can't Buy Me Love", "Lady Madonna", " We Can Work it Out", "Let Me Roll It", "Let 'm In", "Helter Skelter" etc, again when I could have heard great "new" Solo songs that have never been done "live" in Concert before. What is Paul thinking? .
And don't get me started on some of the recent Solo Paul setlist choices that he continues to play like "Fuh You", and "Come On to Me" when he has far better songs from the same Egypt Station Album. One saving grace...I can always play them on my own CD's and it saved me plenty of money by not attending. Don't get me wrong,.. I would have loved to have heard them in concert but as others have said here...It's not going to happen in 2022. So sad and a real "missed opportunity" for Paul's Legacy. How does he not play "I Don't Know" or "Dominoes" two of his best songs ever...Beatles or Post Beatles". Sorry I'm frustrated and I'm repeating myself. Thanks Guys and Ladies for listening.
When I first heard "Happy With You it was love at first listen. Why play Fuh You rather than Happy, Dominoes, I Don't Know is a mystery. Didn't he write that one with some young guy who said something like we are going to write you a hit, I seem to recall from an interview? Ah, here is RyanTedder's name on the CD insert. I would love to hear the three we mentioned plus Despite Repeated Warnings with Hunt YouDown Nakd/ C-Link that wraps up the album. As what he did with Tedder, "Nothing For Free" is better than Fuh, imho.
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"As I said, if we were at home and not in NJ preparing our Condo for the Renters, I would have been tempted. But I'm sure the prices for 2 tickets would have been very high plus after following the setlists for all the shows on Got Back so far, I would have been furious not to hear live (and with the full Band) such great songs like "Find My Way", "Seize the Day", "Slidin", "I Don't Know" etc. It's not that some of the older Beatle and Solo songs on this Setlist are bad, but I wouldn't have been psyched to hear "Can't Buy Me Love", "Lady Madonna", " We Can Work it Out", "Let Me Roll It", "Let 'm In", "Helter Skelter" etc, again when I could have heard great "new" Solo songs that have never been done "live" in Concert before. What is Paul thinking? ."
I understand BJ and Paul's show in Winston Salem NC was about an hour drive for me but had no desire to go and I think as I mentioned surprised my wife. I needed a setlist that had 3-4 "McCartney III" songs on it and a couple of different ones from "Egypt Station" to have possible changed my mind. In addition to these changes if Paul had gotten rid of "In Spite Of All Danger" and "Benefit For Mr. Kite" and played two Beatle songs he never played live I might have actually been excited to go -lol , BTW - Glad I did not go in the end, heard the venue did not have enough parking and was a disaster. See link below. IMO he should have played in Charlotte where they have football stadium for Carolina Panthers and obviously enough parking -lol
'It was just horrible': Traffic headaches anger many Paul McCartney fans (msn.com)
"And don't get me started on some of the recent Solo Paul setlist choices that he continues to play like "Fuh You", and "Come On to Me" when he has far better songs from the same Egypt Station Album. One saving grace...I can always play them on my own CD's and it saved me plenty of money by not attending. Don't get me wrong,.. I would have loved to have heard them in concert but as others have said here...It's not going to happen in 2022. So sad and a real "missed opportunity" for Paul's Legacy. How does he not play "I Don't Know" or "Dominoes" two of his best songs ever...Beatles or Post Beatles". Sorry I'm frustrated and I'm repeating myself. Thanks Guys and Ladies for listening."
Understand your frustration BJ and I agree. I will never understand a lot of Paul's choices when it comes to his setlist. For the most part, Beatle songs are a no brainer but as I have said multiple times why the heck pick songs like "In Spite Of All Danger" and "Benefit For Mr. Kite". While I did not like the songs he played from "Egypt Station" the last tour (exception being "Who Cares") I understood he was trying to promote his singles. That being said, why not change it up this tour and do other songs like the ones you have mentioned. It is mind blowing to me that there are now no songs from "McCartney III" in his set list. There are easily 3-4 songs from that album that would be great live. If he no longer wants to play songs from his most current album than I finally give up. You are correct that at least we have the CD's but it sure would have been cool to hear the "McCartney III" songs live with his touring band. Oh well, life goes on.
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John Mackintosh wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"Anyway, just dreaming of course. I'm glad I'm not in the Orlando FL area this weekend. On top of Disney, Seaworld and everything else, Paul is playing in a Stadium show on Saturday night in Orlando. Does anyone know the capacity for the Stadium show there."
My in-laws will be at that show, they live in Tampa. My sister in-law is big Beatle Paul fan and could care less about his solo albums even though I tried hard to "turn her on" to his solo music. I will get report from my brother in-law who is excellent photographer and I know will also post some you tube clips. I will send you email with some of his clips from the show.
Thanks Yankeefan. I've driven by "Camping World Stadium". For my wife and me, it is probably only a little over an hour away from our house in Florida.
As I said, if we were at home and not in NJ preparing our Condo for the Renters, I would have been tempted. But I'm sure the prices for 2 tickets would have been very high plus after following the setlists for all the shows on Got Back so far, I would have been furious not to hear live (and with the full Band) such great songs like "Find My Way", "Seize the Day", "Slidin", "I Don't Know" etc. It's not that some of the older Beatle and Solo songs on this Setlist are bad, but I wouldn't have been psyched to hear "Can't Buy Me Love", "Lady Madonna", " We Can Work it Out", "Let Me Roll It", "Let 'm In", "Helter Skelter" etc, again when I could have heard great "new" Solo songs that have never been done "live" in Concert before. What is Paul thinking? .
And don't get me started on some of the recent Solo Paul setlist choices that he continues to play like "Fuh You", and "Come On to Me" when he has far better songs from the same Egypt Station Album. One saving grace...I can always play them on my own CD's and it saved me plenty of money by not attending. Don't get me wrong,.. I would have loved to have heard them in concert but as others have said here...It's not going to happen in 2022. So sad and a real "missed opportunity" for Paul's Legacy. How does he not play "I Don't Know" or "Dominoes" two of his best songs ever...Beatles or Post Beatles". Sorry I'm frustrated and I'm repeating myself. Thanks Guys and Ladies for listening.
When I first heard "Happy With You it was love at first listen. Why play Fuh You rather than Happy, Dominoes, I Don't Know is a mystery. Didn't he write that one with some young guy who said something like we are going to write you a hit, I seem to recall from an interview? Ah, here is RyanTedder's name on the CD insert. I would love to hear the three we mentioned plus Despite Repeated Warnings with Hunt YouDown Nakd/ C-Link that wraps up the album. As what he did with Tedder, "Nothing For Free" is better than Fuh, imho.
I had to laugh at Tedder saying he was going to write Paul a hit. There is no way in heck Paul would ever have a top single by himself, only way it happens if he does something with younger/hip artist. IMO "Fuh You" should have been released as "single" and left off the original album, could have been replaced with "In A Hurry" which was on another version of the album. The song does not fit with the others on "Egypt Station" Once again, this type of thing is why Paul needs good and strong willed producer like Nigel Godrich. CHAOS was such an excellent album because he would stand up to Paul and demand the best and song like "Fuh You" would never make it on an album produced by him.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
John Mackintosh wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"Anyway, just dreaming of course. I'm glad I'm not in the Orlando FL area this weekend. On top of Disney, Seaworld and everything else, Paul is playing in a Stadium show on Saturday night in Orlando. Does anyone know the capacity for the Stadium show there."
My in-laws will be at that show, they live in Tampa. My sister in-law is big Beatle Paul fan and could care less about his solo albums even though I tried hard to "turn her on" to his solo music. I will get report from my brother in-law who is excellent photographer and I know will also post some you tube clips. I will send you email with some of his clips from the show.
Thanks Yankeefan. I've driven by "Camping World Stadium". For my wife and me, it is probably only a little over an hour away from our house in Florida.
As I said, if we were at home and not in NJ preparing our Condo for the Renters, I would have been tempted. But I'm sure the prices for 2 tickets would have been very high plus after following the setlists for all the shows on Got Back so far, I would have been furious not to hear live (and with the full Band) such great songs like "Find My Way", "Seize the Day", "Slidin", "I Don't Know" etc. It's not that some of the older Beatle and Solo songs on this Setlist are bad, but I wouldn't have been psyched to hear "Can't Buy Me Love", "Lady Madonna", " We Can Work it Out", "Let Me Roll It", "Let 'm In", "Helter Skelter" etc, again when I could have heard great "new" Solo songs that have never been done "live" in Concert before. What is Paul thinking? .
And don't get me started on some of the recent Solo Paul setlist choices that he continues to play like "Fuh You", and "Come On to Me" when he has far better songs from the same Egypt Station Album. One saving grace...I can always play them on my own CD's and it saved me plenty of money by not attending. Don't get me wrong,.. I would have loved to have heard them in concert but as others have said here...It's not going to happen in 2022. So sad and a real "missed opportunity" for Paul's Legacy. How does he not play "I Don't Know" or "Dominoes" two of his best songs ever...Beatles or Post Beatles". Sorry I'm frustrated and I'm repeating myself. Thanks Guys and Ladies for listening.
When I first heard "Happy With You it was love at first listen. Why play Fuh You rather than Happy, Dominoes, I Don't Know is a mystery. Didn't he write that one with some young guy who said something like we are going to write you a hit, I seem to recall from an interview? Ah, here is RyanTedder's name on the CD insert. I would love to hear the three we mentioned plus Despite Repeated Warnings with Hunt YouDown Nakd/ C-Link that wraps up the album. As what he did with Tedder, "Nothing For Free" is better than Fuh, imho.
I had to laugh at Tedder saying he was going to write Paul a hit. There is no way in heck Paul would ever have a top single by himself, only way it happens if he does something with younger/hip artist. IMO "Fuh You" should have been released as "single" and left off the original album, could have been replaced with "In A Hurry" which was on another version of the album. The song does not fit with the others on "Egypt Station" Once again, this type of thing is why Paul needs good and strong willed producer like Nigel Godrich. CHAOS was such an excellent album because he would stand up to Paul and demand the best and song like "Fuh You" would never make it on an album produced by him.
Agree, plus he should never have caved and changed the title to Fuh You! Leave it as For You! I happen to like the song otherwise. And which one has the false ending, oh yeah - Come On To Me! He should have just ended the damn song and left off all that stupid "Yes I will, yes I will" etc.!
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
John Mackintosh wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"Anyway, just dreaming of course. I'm glad I'm not in the Orlando FL area this weekend. On top of Disney, Seaworld and everything else, Paul is playing in a Stadium show on Saturday night in Orlando. Does anyone know the capacity for the Stadium show there."
My in-laws will be at that show, they live in Tampa. My sister in-law is big Beatle Paul fan and could care less about his solo albums even though I tried hard to "turn her on" to his solo music. I will get report from my brother in-law who is excellent photographer and I know will also post some you tube clips. I will send you email with some of his clips from the show.
Thanks Yankeefan. I've driven by "Camping World Stadium". For my wife and me, it is probably only a little over an hour away from our house in Florida.
As I said, if we were at home and not in NJ preparing our Condo for the Renters, I would have been tempted. But I'm sure the prices for 2 tickets would have been very high plus after following the setlists for all the shows on Got Back so far, I would have been furious not to hear live (and with the full Band) such great songs like "Find My Way", "Seize the Day", "Slidin", "I Don't Know" etc. It's not that some of the older Beatle and Solo songs on this Setlist are bad, but I wouldn't have been psyched to hear "Can't Buy Me Love", "Lady Madonna", " We Can Work it Out", "Let Me Roll It", "Let 'm In", "Helter Skelter" etc, again when I could have heard great "new" Solo songs that have never been done "live" in Concert before. What is Paul thinking? .
And don't get me started on some of the recent Solo Paul setlist choices that he continues to play like "Fuh You", and "Come On to Me" when he has far better songs from the same Egypt Station Album. One saving grace...I can always play them on my own CD's and it saved me plenty of money by not attending. Don't get me wrong,.. I would have loved to have heard them in concert but as others have said here...It's not going to happen in 2022. So sad and a real "missed opportunity" for Paul's Legacy. How does he not play "I Don't Know" or "Dominoes" two of his best songs ever...Beatles or Post Beatles". Sorry I'm frustrated and I'm repeating myself. Thanks Guys and Ladies for listening.
When I first heard "Happy With You it was love at first listen. Why play Fuh You rather than Happy, Dominoes, I Don't Know is a mystery. Didn't he write that one with some young guy who said something like we are going to write you a hit, I seem to recall from an interview? Ah, here is RyanTedder's name on the CD insert. I would love to hear the three we mentioned plus Despite Repeated Warnings with Hunt YouDown Nakd/ C-Link that wraps up the album. As what he did with Tedder, "Nothing For Free" is better than Fuh, imho.
I had to laugh at Tedder saying he was going to write Paul a hit. There is no way in heck Paul would ever have a top single by himself, only way it happens if he does something with younger/hip artist. IMO "Fuh You" should have been released as "single" and left off the original album, could have been replaced with "In A Hurry" which was on another version of the album. The song does not fit with the others on "Egypt Station" Once again, this type of thing is why Paul needs good and strong willed producer like Nigel Godrich. CHAOS was such an excellent album because he would stand up to Paul and demand the best and song like "Fuh You" would never make it on an album produced by him.
It's a shame that Nigel Goodrich didn't become his regular producer like George Martinwith the Beatles. Come to think of it, wasn't it Martin that recommended Goodrich?
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"It's a shame that Nigel Goodrich didn't become his regular producer like George Martinwith the Beatles. Come to think of it, wasn't it Martin that recommended Goodrich?"
I don't think Nigel and Paul hit it off that well but they created a fantastic album together. Paul has said he did not appreciate Nigel being pretty blunt with him at times. My gut feeling is Paul kind of wants "yes" man around him -lol.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
"It's a shame that Nigel Goodrich didn't become his regular producer like George Martinwith the Beatles. Come to think of it, wasn't it Martin that recommended Goodrich?"
I don't think Nigel and Paul hit it off that well but they created a fantastic album together. Paul has said he did not appreciate Nigel being pretty blunt with him at times. My gut feeling is Paul kind of wants "yes" man around him -lol.
No! Ya think?
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NJR wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"It's a shame that Nigel Goodrich didn't become his regular producer like George Martinwith the Beatles. Come to think of it, wasn't it Martin that recommended Goodrich?"
I don't think Nigel and Paul hit it off that well but they created a fantastic album together. Paul has said he did not appreciate Nigel being pretty blunt with him at times. My gut feeling is Paul kind of wants "yes" man around him -lol.
No! Ya think?
I don't think Elvis Costello, Glyn Johns or Hugh Padgham took any nonsense from Paul either which didn't go down well.
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John Mackintosh wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
John Mackintosh wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"Anyway, just dreaming of course. I'm glad I'm not in the Orlando FL area this weekend. On top of Disney, Seaworld and everything else, Paul is playing in a Stadium show on Saturday night in Orlando. Does anyone know the capacity for the Stadium show there."
My in-laws will be at that show, they live in Tampa. My sister in-law is big Beatle Paul fan and could care less about his solo albums even though I tried hard to "turn her on" to his solo music. I will get report from my brother in-law who is excellent photographer and I know will also post some you tube clips. I will send you email with some of his clips from the show.
Thanks Yankeefan. I've driven by "Camping World Stadium". For my wife and me, it is probably only a little over an hour away from our house in Florida.
As I said, if we were at home and not in NJ preparing our Condo for the Renters, I would have been tempted. But I'm sure the prices for 2 tickets would have been very high plus after following the setlists for all the shows on Got Back so far, I would have been furious not to hear live (and with the full Band) such great songs like "Find My Way", "Seize the Day", "Slidin", "I Don't Know" etc. It's not that some of the older Beatle and Solo songs on this Setlist are bad, but I wouldn't have been psyched to hear "Can't Buy Me Love", "Lady Madonna", " We Can Work it Out", "Let Me Roll It", "Let 'm In", "Helter Skelter" etc, again when I could have heard great "new" Solo songs that have never been done "live" in Concert before. What is Paul thinking? .
And don't get me started on some of the recent Solo Paul setlist choices that he continues to play like "Fuh You", and "Come On to Me" when he has far better songs from the same Egypt Station Album. One saving grace...I can always play them on my own CD's and it saved me plenty of money by not attending. Don't get me wrong,.. I would have loved to have heard them in concert but as others have said here...It's not going to happen in 2022. So sad and a real "missed opportunity" for Paul's Legacy. How does he not play "I Don't Know" or "Dominoes" two of his best songs ever...Beatles or Post Beatles". Sorry I'm frustrated and I'm repeating myself. Thanks Guys and Ladies for listening.
When I first heard "Happy With You it was love at first listen. Why play Fuh You rather than Happy, Dominoes, I Don't Know is a mystery. Didn't he write that one with some young guy who said something like we are going to write you a hit, I seem to recall from an interview? Ah, here is RyanTedder's name on the CD insert. I would love to hear the three we mentioned plus Despite Repeated Warnings with Hunt YouDown Nakd/ C-Link that wraps up the album. As what he did with Tedder, "Nothing For Free" is better than Fuh, imho.
I had to laugh at Tedder saying he was going to write Paul a hit. There is no way in heck Paul would ever have a top single by himself, only way it happens if he does something with younger/hip artist. IMO "Fuh You" should have been released as "single" and left off the original album, could have been replaced with "In A Hurry" which was on another version of the album. The song does not fit with the others on "Egypt Station" Once again, this type of thing is why Paul needs good and strong willed producer like Nigel Godrich. CHAOS was such an excellent album because he would stand up to Paul and demand the best and song like "Fuh You" would never make it on an album produced by him.
It's a shame that Nigel Goodrich didn't become his regular producer like George Martinwith the Beatles. Come to think of it, wasn't it Martin that recommended Goodrich?
I'd be pleased if he let Giles Martin do any future production of new music. He did a good job on the"NEW" album....the parts he produced... and is a good fit. He knows Paul's strengths and weaknesses. But, alas, it is all too late...pretty much. Paul could still come up with something speicial, I would guess, but time is not on his side.
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Kestrel wrote:
NJR wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"It's a shame that Nigel Goodrich didn't become his regular producer like George Martinwith the Beatles. Come to think of it, wasn't it Martin that recommended Goodrich?"
I don't think Nigel and Paul hit it off that well but they created a fantastic album together. Paul has said he did not appreciate Nigel being pretty blunt with him at times. My gut feeling is Paul kind of wants "yes" man around him -lol.
No! Ya think?
I don't think Elvis Costello, Glyn Johns or Hugh Padgham took any nonsense from Paul either which didn't go down well.
As I recall reading, the producer of "Egypt Station" said when he suggested ideas to Paul during the sesssions, Paul would act as if he didn't hear any of it and would just continue with what he was doing. I would have walked out about then. I mean doesn't the guy produce Adele???? And how is it that Ryan Tedder just came along and did this or that? He wasn't hired to produce the album. I like "For Free." Good song, but the other one is embarrassing. The whole subject. If Ryan Tedder thought it was so great, why didn't he keep it and record it with his band....One Republic. I mean with his band he recorded a song for Tom Cruise and his Top Gun: Maverick movie. "Fuh You" might have fit there. Not!
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Beatles4Ever wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
NJR wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"It's a shame that Nigel Goodrich didn't become his regular producer like George Martinwith the Beatles. Come to think of it, wasn't it Martin that recommended Goodrich?"
I don't think Nigel and Paul hit it off that well but they created a fantastic album together. Paul has said he did not appreciate Nigel being pretty blunt with him at times. My gut feeling is Paul kind of wants "yes" man around him -lol.
No! Ya think?
I don't think Elvis Costello, Glyn Johns or Hugh Padgham took any nonsense from Paul either which didn't go down well.
As I recall reading, the producer of "Egypt Station" said when he suggested ideas to Paul during the sesssions, Paul would act as if he didn't hear any of it and would just continue with what he was doing. I would have walked out about then. I mean doesn't the guy produce Adele???? And how is it that Ryan Tedder just came along and did this or that? He wasn't hired to produce the album. I like "For Free." Good song, but the other one is embarrassing. The whole subject. If Ryan Tedder thought it was so great, why didn't he keep it and record it with his band....One Republic. I mean with his band he recorded a song for Tom Cruise and his Top Gun: Maverick movie. "Fuh You" might have fit there. Not!
Great points. The fact that Tedder didn't want it, similar to how Paul and Elvis Costello split the efforts of their work with Elvis turning Veronica into a hit,speaks loud and clear. Tedder didn't want that song, we don't want to hear it so it is an orphan. It needs to be relegated to a album that will never be released called "Unpure McCartney."