Set List critique
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John Mackintosh wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
John Mackintosh wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"Anyway, just dreaming of course. I'm glad I'm not in the Orlando FL area this weekend. On top of Disney, Seaworld and everything else, Paul is playing in a Stadium show on Saturday night in Orlando. Does anyone know the capacity for the Stadium show there."
My in-laws will be at that show, they live in Tampa. My sister in-law is big Beatle Paul fan and could care less about his solo albums even though I tried hard to "turn her on" to his solo music. I will get report from my brother in-law who is excellent photographer and I know will also post some you tube clips. I will send you email with some of his clips from the show.
Thanks Yankeefan. I've driven by "Camping World Stadium". For my wife and me, it is probably only a little over an hour away from our house in Florida.
As I said, if we were at home and not in NJ preparing our Condo for the Renters, I would have been tempted. But I'm sure the prices for 2 tickets would have been very high plus after following the setlists for all the shows on Got Back so far, I would have been furious not to hear live (and with the full Band) such great songs like "Find My Way", "Seize the Day", "Slidin", "I Don't Know" etc. It's not that some of the older Beatle and Solo songs on this Setlist are bad, but I wouldn't have been psyched to hear "Can't Buy Me Love", "Lady Madonna", " We Can Work it Out", "Let Me Roll It", "Let 'm In", "Helter Skelter" etc, again when I could have heard great "new" Solo songs that have never been done "live" in Concert before. What is Paul thinking? .
And don't get me started on some of the recent Solo Paul setlist choices that he continues to play like "Fuh You", and "Come On to Me" when he has far better songs from the same Egypt Station Album. One saving grace...I can always play them on my own CD's and it saved me plenty of money by not attending. Don't get me wrong,.. I would have loved to have heard them in concert but as others have said here...It's not going to happen in 2022. So sad and a real "missed opportunity" for Paul's Legacy. How does he not play "I Don't Know" or "Dominoes" two of his best songs ever...Beatles or Post Beatles". Sorry I'm frustrated and I'm repeating myself. Thanks Guys and Ladies for listening.
When I first heard "Happy With You it was love at first listen. Why play Fuh You rather than Happy, Dominoes, I Don't Know is a mystery. Didn't he write that one with some young guy who said something like we are going to write you a hit, I seem to recall from an interview? Ah, here is RyanTedder's name on the CD insert. I would love to hear the three we mentioned plus Despite Repeated Warnings with Hunt YouDown Nakd/ C-Link that wraps up the album. As what he did with Tedder, "Nothing For Free" is better than Fuh, imho.
I had to laugh at Tedder saying he was going to write Paul a hit. There is no way in heck Paul would ever have a top single by himself, only way it happens if he does something with younger/hip artist. IMO "Fuh You" should have been released as "single" and left off the original album, could have been replaced with "In A Hurry" which was on another version of the album. The song does not fit with the others on "Egypt Station" Once again, this type of thing is why Paul needs good and strong willed producer like Nigel Godrich. CHAOS was such an excellent album because he would stand up to Paul and demand the best and song like "Fuh You" would never make it on an album produced by him.
It's a shame that Nigel Goodrich didn't become his regular producer like George Martinwith the Beatles. Come to think of it, wasn't it Martin that recommended Goodrich?
I'd be pleased if he let Giles Martin do any future production of new music. He did a good job on the"NEW" album....the parts he produced... and is a good fit. He knows Paul's strengths and weaknesses. But, alas, it is all too late...pretty much. Paul could still come up with something speicial, I would guess, but time is not on his side.
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Kestrel wrote:
NJR wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"It's a shame that Nigel Goodrich didn't become his regular producer like George Martinwith the Beatles. Come to think of it, wasn't it Martin that recommended Goodrich?"
I don't think Nigel and Paul hit it off that well but they created a fantastic album together. Paul has said he did not appreciate Nigel being pretty blunt with him at times. My gut feeling is Paul kind of wants "yes" man around him -lol.
No! Ya think?
I don't think Elvis Costello, Glyn Johns or Hugh Padgham took any nonsense from Paul either which didn't go down well.
As I recall reading, the producer of "Egypt Station" said when he suggested ideas to Paul during the sesssions, Paul would act as if he didn't hear any of it and would just continue with what he was doing. I would have walked out about then. I mean doesn't the guy produce Adele???? And how is it that Ryan Tedder just came along and did this or that? He wasn't hired to produce the album. I like "For Free." Good song, but the other one is embarrassing. The whole subject. If Ryan Tedder thought it was so great, why didn't he keep it and record it with his band....One Republic. I mean with his band he recorded a song for Tom Cruise and his Top Gun: Maverick movie. "Fuh You" might have fit there. Not!
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Beatles4Ever wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
NJR wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"It's a shame that Nigel Goodrich didn't become his regular producer like George Martinwith the Beatles. Come to think of it, wasn't it Martin that recommended Goodrich?"
I don't think Nigel and Paul hit it off that well but they created a fantastic album together. Paul has said he did not appreciate Nigel being pretty blunt with him at times. My gut feeling is Paul kind of wants "yes" man around him -lol.
No! Ya think?
I don't think Elvis Costello, Glyn Johns or Hugh Padgham took any nonsense from Paul either which didn't go down well.
As I recall reading, the producer of "Egypt Station" said when he suggested ideas to Paul during the sesssions, Paul would act as if he didn't hear any of it and would just continue with what he was doing. I would have walked out about then. I mean doesn't the guy produce Adele???? And how is it that Ryan Tedder just came along and did this or that? He wasn't hired to produce the album. I like "For Free." Good song, but the other one is embarrassing. The whole subject. If Ryan Tedder thought it was so great, why didn't he keep it and record it with his band....One Republic. I mean with his band he recorded a song for Tom Cruise and his Top Gun: Maverick movie. "Fuh You" might have fit there. Not!
Great points. The fact that Tedder didn't want it, similar to how Paul and Elvis Costello split the efforts of their work with Elvis turning Veronica into a hit,speaks loud and clear. Tedder didn't want that song, we don't want to hear it so it is an orphan. It needs to be relegated to a album that will never be released called "Unpure McCartney."
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Beatles4Ever wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
NJR wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
"It's a shame that Nigel Goodrich didn't become his regular producer like George Martinwith the Beatles. Come to think of it, wasn't it Martin that recommended Goodrich?"
I don't think Nigel and Paul hit it off that well but they created a fantastic album together. Paul has said he did not appreciate Nigel being pretty blunt with him at times. My gut feeling is Paul kind of wants "yes" man around him -lol.
No! Ya think?
I don't think Elvis Costello, Glyn Johns or Hugh Padgham took any nonsense from Paul either which didn't go down well.
As I recall reading, the producer of "Egypt Station" said when he suggested ideas to Paul during the sesssions, Paul would act as if he didn't hear any of it and would just continue with what he was doing. I would have walked out about then. I mean doesn't the guy produce Adele???? And how is it that Ryan Tedder just came along and did this or that? He wasn't hired to produce the album. I like "For Free." Good song, but the other one is embarrassing. The whole subject. If Ryan Tedder thought it was so great, why didn't he keep it and record it with his band....One Republic. I mean with his band he recorded a song for Tom Cruise and his Top Gun: Maverick movie. "Fuh You" might have fit there. Not!
What is "For Free?" Did you mean "For You/Fuh You?" (Or the song "Nothing For Free?")
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I remember reading one of the reviews on Egypt Station when it was first released. It was one of the main natonal papers. The reviewer on the whole loved the album but there was one track he hated which was "Fuh You". The writer told the story that when Macca first started working with Ryan Tedder they started working on a song primarily written by Tedder called "Fuh You". Paul's first instinct was that he didn't like the lyrics. He quickly thought that he is the person that wrote Eleanor Rigby and Blackbird and why would he do a song like "Fuh You". Tedder then asked Paul if he wanted a "hit". The writer of this review on Egypt Station said something to this effect "Too Bad that Paul didn't listen to his first instinct."
Now like 3 years later, we and Paul know that "Fuh You" never came close to a top 40 hit. So what recent solo song that Paul is still trotting out on this current tour...You guessed it "Fuh You." As much as Paul is a musical genius, he is not a good judge of his own music whiich is why he still puts inferior tracks on many of his original Post Beatles' albums and leaves off good songs that should have made the album.
I also remember Rob Sheffield, a great music critic on Rollingstone Magazine. Rob not only loved most of Egypt Station but the song he absolutedly loved was "Dominoes". He thought it was one of Paul's best songs ever...as a Beatle or Wings member. But the song that Rob didn't like was "Fuh You".
Finally, I remember when Egypt Station was just released. It was an online thing where the public was able to give iniitial reactions to "Fuh You". The overwhelming response was that it was terrible. The main reason it was negative was primarily because of the implied lyrics but because it sounded too much like a top 40 song with horrible lyrics.
Think about this song today that is on the setlist compared to what he could be playing. What would you rather hear...Fuh You or Little Willow or Put It There.
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Can anyone put one or two of the Orlando reviews from last night's Concert. I saw a review from the Orlando Sentinel but couln't read it because the "paper" blocks it out. I am interested in an estimate of the crowd size and how Paul sounded. I saw the setlist and it was the one that didn't contain "Women and Wives". It still contained "let 'm in", "new" and "I've Just Seen a Face".
Again, just blows my mind...nothing from McCartney 3 and he's still doing "Come On to Me" and "Fuh You".
Thanks
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B J Conlee wrote:
Can anyone put one or two of the Orlando reviews from last night's Concert. I saw a review from the Orlando Sentinel but couln't read it because the "paper" blocks it out. I am interested in an estimate of the crowd size and how Paul sounded. I saw the setlist and it was the one that didn't contain "Women and Wives". It still contained "let 'm in", "new" and "I've Just Seen a Face".
Again, just blows my mind...nothing from McCartney 3 and he's still doing "Come On to Me" and "Fuh You".
Thanks
See link below. Very generic review which does not say much but at least you can read it for free -lol
Everything we saw and heard at Paul McCartney's stadium show in Orlando (orlandoweekly.com)
My wife talked to my sister in-law briefly about the concert and she told me that she and my brother in-law had great time. She said his voice is aged/weathered but still sounds pretty good most songs especially when the band sings along with him.
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I have a theory as to why Paul isn't playing the new songs from McCartney 3 and changing out songs from Egypt Station on this tour. Kestrel alluded to it a few posts back.
Kestrel mentioned that Paul doesn't want to do any more work that he has to do. I and a few others also mentioned that they were surprised that Paul/Band did so little rehearsing for this Got Back tour since it was his first tour in like 3 years. I think the reason for Paul and Band not shaking up the setlist is precisely because Paul wanted to do the least amount of rehearsing as possible. When I think about it, "Women and Wives" was the lone McCartney 3 song and it is the simplist McCartney 3 song to perform. It's just Paul at the piano and Rusty does the little guitar solo. The reason that he stuck with "Come On To Me" and "Fuh You" is because it required little to no rehearsing.
I remember how the "Stones" did their rehearsing when they started a new tour. Mick, Keith and the rest of the band would do a full month or rehearsing before the tour began. They especially wanted to be ready for bringing in new songs and for shaking up the Setlist. Why Paul doesn't want to be similar to the "Stones" in this regard still baffles me. Maybe because Paul is now close to 80. He is older and he wanted to shake up the setlist as little as possible. Paul still wants to give long shows to give the customers their "money's worth" but rehearsing new material is hard work. This is my best guess.
For the hard core fans who are probably the minority, this is the hardest thing to accept. We want to hear different and in many cases better songs. We also want a couple of different Beatle songs (e.g. Rocky Raccoon, I Want to Hold Your Hand) and that would require more rehearsing. From Paul's point of few, the majority of the audience (first timers and casual Beatle fans) they will be plenty satisfied. Again it requires little pre-tour rehearsing and he throws in a few new things like adding a couple of new Beatle songs that he hasn't played in like 20 years and he (primarily Peter Jackson) throws in the technology extras like Paul and John singing together for the initial encore track..."I Got a Feeling". Many of the casual fans have kept up with the "Let It Be" documentary with the Beatles over the last year so this is a great addition in Paul's mind.
This is my theory and it stinks for many hard core Paul fans like you and me on this site. Heck I was a little disappointed in the 2002 tour when Paul didn't add a few Solo songs from "Tug of War" and "Flaming PIe". This is a lot harded to accept for us because Paul has done virtually nothing from his last album and he is doing nothing new from Egypt Station.
Again only my theory but it does make sense imho.
Thanks
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B J Conlee wrote:
I remember reading one of the reviews on Egypt Station when it was first released. It was one of the main natonal papers. The reviewer on the whole loved the album but there was one track he hated which was "Fuh You". The writer told the story that when Macca first started working with Ryan Tedder they started working on a song primarily written by Tedder called "Fuh You". Paul's first instinct was that he didn't like the lyrics. He quickly thought that he is the person that wrote Eleanor Rigby and Blackbird and why would he do a song like "Fuh You". Tedder then asked Paul if he wanted a "hit". The writer of this review on Egypt Station said something to this effect "Too Bad that Paul didn't listen to his first instinct."
Now like 3 years later, we and Paul know that "Fuh You" never came close to a top 40 hit. So what recent solo song that Paul is still trotting out on this current tour...You guessed it "Fuh You." As much as Paul is a musical genius, he is not a good judge of his own music whiich is why he still puts inferior tracks on many of his original Post Beatles' albums and leaves off good songs that should have made the album.
I also remember Rob Sheffield, a great music critic on Rollingstone Magazine. Rob not only loved most of Egypt Station but the song he absolutedly loved was "Dominoes". He thought it was one of Paul's best songs ever...as a Beatle or Wings member. But the song that Rob didn't like was "Fuh You".
Finally, I remember when Egypt Station was just released. It was an online thing where the public was able to give iniitial reactions to "Fuh You". The overwhelming response was that it was terrible. The main reason it was negative was primarily because of the implied lyrics but because it sounded too much like a top 40 song with horrible lyrics.
Think about this song today that is on the setlist compared to what he could be playing. What would you rather hear...Fuh You or Little Willow or Put It There.
Paul's judgement has always not been very good with songs that make album and set list and this is classic example. Paul released "Fuh You" as single with what sounds like sexually explict lyrics which is not good look for man in his late 70's IMO "Who Cares" should have been the first single, good uptempo song and has great message about trying to help young people who are being "bullied". Paul could have set up interviews with local DJ's on the tour and talked about this songs message. I think he could have received more airplay with "Who Cares" than "Fuh You". Have the "B side be "I Don't Know" and I think you sell the "Egypt Station" album better with these two songs.
As for songs he could play on this tour instead of "Fuh You", the list is endless. You and others have mentioned much better "Egypt Station" songs which are much more Paul McCartney style than a song that is not his style with producer just trying to make crass hit with 70 year old artist. Think about Paul doing song like "That Was Me" or "Promise To You Girl" instead of "Fuh You". Paul just boggles my mind sometimes.
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"Kestrel mentioned that Paul doesn't want to do any more work that he has to do. I and a few others also mentioned that they were surprised that Paul/Band did so little rehearsing for this Got Back tour since it was his first tour in like 3 years. I think the reason for Paul and Band not shaking up the setlist is precisely because Paul wanted to do the least amount of rehearsing as possible. When I think about it, "Women and Wives" was the lone McCartney 3 song and it is the simplist McCartney 3 song to perform. It's just Paul at the piano and Rusty does the little guitar solo. The reason that he stuck with "Come On To Me" and "Fuh You" is because it required little to no rehearsing."
The one question I have is how hard is it for rock icon like Paul and his touring band of 20 plus years to learn something like "Find My Way" from "McCartney III". Obviously Paul knows the song quite well since he played every instrument on it in stages (lol) so would it really be a struggle for this band to learn it in a couple of hours. Are we to believe that Paul's band has never heard songs like "Find My Way" from "McCartney III" ? -lol
"For the hard core fans who are probably the minority, this is the hardest thing to accept. We want to hear different and in many cases better songs. We also want a couple of different Beatle songs (e.g. Rocky Raccoon, I Want to Hold Your Hand) and that would require more rehearsing. From Paul's point of few, the majority of the audience (first timers and casual Beatle fans) they will be plenty satisfied."
Very simple, Paul does not care about the minority at his concerts, all they do is buy his solo albums the last 40 years -lol
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Can anyone put one or two of the Orlando reviews from last night's Concert. I saw a review from the Orlando Sentinel but couln't read it because the "paper" blocks it out. I am interested in an estimate of the crowd size and how Paul sounded. I saw the setlist and it was the one that didn't contain "Women and Wives". It still contained "let 'm in", "new" and "I've Just Seen a Face".
Again, just blows my mind...nothing from McCartney 3 and he's still doing "Come On to Me" and "Fuh You".
Thanks
See link below. Very generic review which does not say much but at least you can read it for free -lol
Everything we saw and heard at Paul McCartney's stadium show in Orlando (orlandoweekly.com)
My wife talked to my sister in-law briefly about the concert and she told me that she and my brother in-law had great time. She said his voice is aged/weathered but still sounds pretty good most songs especially when the band sings along with him.
Thanks for the Orlando review. It gave me a good feel for how the show went down.
Glad your relatives had a good time. That being said, I think we're both glad we didn't pay this kind of money for this Paul McCartney show. Even though he has a great band, I would have been mad with some of the songs he did play and even ,more mad with the songs he didn't play. You are so right...he forgets about the true fans that have paid for his Solo Albums for so many years.
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B J Conlee wrote:
Can anyone put one or two of the Orlando reviews from last night's Concert. I saw a review from the Orlando Sentinel but couln't read it because the "paper" blocks it out. I am interested in an estimate of the crowd size and how Paul sounded. I saw the setlist and it was the one that didn't contain "Women and Wives". It still contained "let 'm in", "new" and "I've Just Seen a Face".
Again, just blows my mind...nothing from McCartney 3 and he's still doing "Come On to Me" and "Fuh You".
Thanks
The place looked completely sold out. Like I said, normally it fits 41,000, so add how many seats were on the field - there were probably more than 45,000 people there.
As far as professional reviews go, I stopped reading them years ago. And most fan reviews are ridiculous - just read this one guy talking about how he heard Paul tell the Blackbird/civil rights story and he'd never heard that! I asked him if he hadn't seen a Paul McCartney concert in the last 20 years as he tells that story every tour! Most fans just gush over him and how great he was etc. etc.
The only really truthful, realistic reviews will be in Beatlefan magazine. They will call Paul out, I bet, for doing Fuh You and Come On To Me. Will let you know what they say in the next issue.
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NJR wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Can anyone put one or two of the Orlando reviews from last night's Concert. I saw a review from the Orlando Sentinel but couln't read it because the "paper" blocks it out. I am interested in an estimate of the crowd size and how Paul sounded. I saw the setlist and it was the one that didn't contain "Women and Wives". It still contained "let 'm in", "new" and "I've Just Seen a Face".
Again, just blows my mind...nothing from McCartney 3 and he's still doing "Come On to Me" and "Fuh You".
Thanks
The place looked completely sold out. Like I said, normally it fits 41,000, so add how many seats were on the field - there were probably more than 45,000 people there.
As far as professional reviews go, I stopped reading them years ago. And most fan reviews are ridiculous - just read this one guy talking about how he heard Paul tell the Blackbird/civil rights story and he'd never heard that! I asked him if he hadn't seen a Paul McCartney concert in the last 20 years as he tells that story every tour! Most fans just gush over him and how great he was etc. etc.
The only really truthful, realistic reviews will be in Beatlefan magazine. They will call Paul out, I bet, for doing Fuh You and Come On To Me. Will let you know what they say in the next issue.
I will look forward to your report. Used to get Beatlefan but then in the years after anthology they got had-pressed to find articles so I cancelled. Leaving for the mountains soon and will slowly make our way to Knoxville for the Tuesday night show. Maybe the problem lies with us--seen him too many times and he has found a set list he loves and is loath to change it. Anyway, on to Knoxville, for better or worse.
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John Mackintosh wrote:
NJR wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Can anyone put one or two of the Orlando reviews from last night's Concert. I saw a review from the Orlando Sentinel but couln't read it because the "paper" blocks it out. I am interested in an estimate of the crowd size and how Paul sounded. I saw the setlist and it was the one that didn't contain "Women and Wives". It still contained "let 'm in", "new" and "I've Just Seen a Face".
Again, just blows my mind...nothing from McCartney 3 and he's still doing "Come On to Me" and "Fuh You".
Thanks
The place looked completely sold out. Like I said, normally it fits 41,000, so add how many seats were on the field - there were probably more than 45,000 people there.
As far as professional reviews go, I stopped reading them years ago. And most fan reviews are ridiculous - just read this one guy talking about how he heard Paul tell the Blackbird/civil rights story and he'd never heard that! I asked him if he hadn't seen a Paul McCartney concert in the last 20 years as he tells that story every tour! Most fans just gush over him and how great he was etc. etc.
The only really truthful, realistic reviews will be in Beatlefan magazine. They will call Paul out, I bet, for doing Fuh You and Come On To Me. Will let you know what they say in the next issue.
I will look forward to your report. Used to get Beatlefan but then in the years after anthology they got had-pressed to find articles so I cancelled. Leaving for the mountains soon and will slowly make our way to Knoxville for the Tuesday night show. Maybe the problem lies with us--seen him too many times and he has found a set list he loves and is loath to change it. Anyway, on to Knoxville, for better or worse.
Have a great time and show in Knoxville TN John. While a few of us aren't thrilled with the Setlist, it will be a thrilling time for you. Just being around many Beatle and Paul fans makes it exciting in itself. If I were there, I would be thrilled to hear many of the songs. Hope he does "I've Just Seen a Face" (one of my favorites from Rubber Soul) for you. For me,it still would be nice to hear "My Valentine" for Nancy. I love Rusty's guitar solo in the middle and Paul still sings it quite well. Finally, I hope he does "Women and Wives"for you. Still a very good song and Paul sings it well. Finally some of the signature songs never go out of style. I'm sure it will be thriiling to hear classics like Blackbird, Here Today, Let It Be, I've Got a Feeling with John, and a couple of Abbey Road Songs he has rarely done like "You Never Give Me Your Money" and "She Came into the Bathroom Window. Even though someone like me wanted to hear newer songs like "Seize the Day", "Find My Way", "Slidin", "I Don't Know", "Dominoes" etc, it will still be a great show. Fantasitic songs like Getting Better, Got to Get You Into My Love with those horns, Get Back and BOTR always sound great.
Have a great time and can't wait to get your report on Maccaborard.
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NJR wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Can anyone put one or two of the Orlando reviews from last night's Concert. I saw a review from the Orlando Sentinel but couln't read it because the "paper" blocks it out. I am interested in an estimate of the crowd size and how Paul sounded. I saw the setlist and it was the one that didn't contain "Women and Wives". It still contained "let 'm in", "new" and "I've Just Seen a Face".
Again, just blows my mind...nothing from McCartney 3 and he's still doing "Come On to Me" and "Fuh You".
Thanks
The place looked completely sold out. Like I said, normally it fits 41,000, so add how many seats were on the field - there were probably more than 45,000 people there.
As far as professional reviews go, I stopped reading them years ago. And most fan reviews are ridiculous - just read this one guy talking about how he heard Paul tell the Blackbird/civil rights story and he'd never heard that! I asked him if he hadn't seen a Paul McCartney concert in the last 20 years as he tells that story every tour! Most fans just gush over him and how great he was etc. etc.
The only really truthful, realistic reviews will be in Beatlefan magazine. They will call Paul out, I bet, for doing Fuh You and Come On To Me. Will let you know what they say in the next issue.
Hey Nancy...thanks as always for your insight. It did look like Paul had a full house in Orlando a tremendous achievment in my estimation.
I still like to read the reviews especially from "music critics" like Rob Sheffield (from Rollingstone) that I really respect. I always remember Rob's Rollingstone Review on Egypt Station. Rob really liked that album as a whole. He loved, loved "Dominoes" and "I Don't Know" which I do too. Two of Paul's Best ever (Beatles or Solo) imo. Rob like a few other Music Critics didn't like "Fuh You". It's not just the wrong title, the rest of the lyrics are pretty lame too. As John Lennon always said..."Paul could write very good lyrics when he put his mind to it". As I said to Yankeefan, I'm over it now. Glad that Paul is having a good and successful tour but as a hard core Solo fan, I'm sure glad I didn't pay that kind of money for any of these Got Back Shows. I don't know if you read my post as for the reasons I think that Paul didn't shake up the Setlist this time. I do repect that Macca continues to give the customers their money's worth but to do all kinds of rehearsing for an 80 year old is just too much work. For all that Paul has given to the fans over the years. he deserves as much down time with Nancy as possible. Just my opinion.
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NJR wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Can anyone put one or two of the Orlando reviews from last night's Concert. I saw a review from the Orlando Sentinel but couln't read it because the "paper" blocks it out. I am interested in an estimate of the crowd size and how Paul sounded. I saw the setlist and it was the one that didn't contain "Women and Wives". It still contained "let 'm in", "new" and "I've Just Seen a Face".
Again, just blows my mind...nothing from McCartney 3 and he's still doing "Come On to Me" and "Fuh You".
Thanks
The place looked completely sold out. Like I said, normally it fits 41,000, so add how many seats were on the field - there were probably more than 45,000 people there.
As far as professional reviews go, I stopped reading them years ago. And most fan reviews are ridiculous - just read this one guy talking about how he heard Paul tell the Blackbird/civil rights story and he'd never heard that! I asked him if he hadn't seen a Paul McCartney concert in the last 20 years as he tells that story every tour! Most fans just gush over him and how great he was etc. etc.
The only really truthful, realistic reviews will be in Beatlefan magazine. They will call Paul out, I bet, for doing Fuh You and Come On To Me. Will let you know what they say in the next issue.
Most professional reviews are done by fanboys/fangirls who are for the most part thrilled to be at show of a Beatle icon. If they were a real critic and not a fan, they would mention while his show is advertised spanning his entire career, there are only a handful of songs after 1980. They would also mention that his voice is much weaker on some songs and has aged. If these critics had ever seen Paul or done any research about his concerts, the "fireworks" would not "amaze" them during "Live And Let Die". Very few mention his excellent band musically and how they help carry Paul vocally. Also, these same "critics" don't seem to know he has told that same "Blackbird" for about 20 years -lol.
Finally, it is kind of funny. I have read reviews of other artists who have toured recently and it is refreshing to read the reviews when the "critics" are not in awe of the artist. I saw Bon Jovi with my wife and daughters awhile ago and the critics have blasted him about his vocals. While I thought he was not as good as he used to me vocally, John Bon Jovi was not as bad as some of the critics were writing. The recent Billy Joel show here in Charlotte the local "critics" praised his show mentioning he still sounds good vocally but that his set list becomes stale because he has not created new music since the 1990's.
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Yankeefan2 wrote:
NJR wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Can anyone put one or two of the Orlando reviews from last night's Concert. I saw a review from the Orlando Sentinel but couln't read it because the "paper" blocks it out. I am interested in an estimate of the crowd size and how Paul sounded. I saw the setlist and it was the one that didn't contain "Women and Wives". It still contained "let 'm in", "new" and "I've Just Seen a Face".
Again, just blows my mind...nothing from McCartney 3 and he's still doing "Come On to Me" and "Fuh You".
Thanks
The place looked completely sold out. Like I said, normally it fits 41,000, so add how many seats were on the field - there were probably more than 45,000 people there.
As far as professional reviews go, I stopped reading them years ago. And most fan reviews are ridiculous - just read this one guy talking about how he heard Paul tell the Blackbird/civil rights story and he'd never heard that! I asked him if he hadn't seen a Paul McCartney concert in the last 20 years as he tells that story every tour! Most fans just gush over him and how great he was etc. etc.
The only really truthful, realistic reviews will be in Beatlefan magazine. They will call Paul out, I bet, for doing Fuh You and Come On To Me. Will let you know what they say in the next issue.
Most professional reviews are done by fanboys/fangirls who are for the most part thrilled to be at show of a Beatle icon. If they were a real critic and not a fan, they would mention while his show is advertised spanning his entire career, there are only a handful of songs after 1980. They would also mention that his voice is much weaker on some songs and has aged. If these critics had ever seen Paul or done any research about his concerts, the "fireworks" would not "amaze" them during "Live And Let Die". Very few mention his excellent band musically and how they help carry Paul vocally. Also, these same "critics" don't seem to know he has told that same "Blackbird" for about 20 years -lol.
Finally, it is kind of funny. I have read reviews of other artists who have toured recently and it is refreshing to read the reviews when the "critics" are not in awe of the artist. I saw Bon Jovi with my wife and daughters awhile ago and the critics have blasted him about his vocals. While I thought he was not as good as he used to me vocally, John Bon Jovi was not as bad as some of the critics were writing. The recent Billy Joel show here in Charlotte the local "critics" praised his show mentioning he still sounds good vocally but that his set list becomes stale because he has not created new music since the 1990's.
Yankeefan...good points.
I guess you're getting ready for your Alaska vacation. We're leaving out of Newark NJ for Vancouver tomorrow.
Have a great trip. Let me know how the Dogsled excursion goes. We're thinking about doing this when we go to Alaska in September.
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Thoughts from a person on another board:
When I was at the Hard Rock show on Wednesday, I thought it sounded okay in the moment. The next day, when I played it back, my opinion stayed the same. The playback still sounded good (though, I'm grading on a 79 year old curve!)
Having sampled clips of various 2022 shows, my show probably had one of the better vocals. Not quite as good as the two Oaklands, but far superior than the first few shows (Spokane/Seattle)....
On the other hand, I listened to a few clips from Orlando, and he sounded pretty wobbly again. So I guess, it's a crap shoot to what the quality of his voice will be that given night.
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B J Conlee wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
NJR wrote:
B J Conlee wrote:
Can anyone put one or two of the Orlando reviews from last night's Concert. I saw a review from the Orlando Sentinel but couln't read it because the "paper" blocks it out. I am interested in an estimate of the crowd size and how Paul sounded. I saw the setlist and it was the one that didn't contain "Women and Wives". It still contained "let 'm in", "new" and "I've Just Seen a Face".
Again, just blows my mind...nothing from McCartney 3 and he's still doing "Come On to Me" and "Fuh You".
Thanks
The place looked completely sold out. Like I said, normally it fits 41,000, so add how many seats were on the field - there were probably more than 45,000 people there.
As far as professional reviews go, I stopped reading them years ago. And most fan reviews are ridiculous - just read this one guy talking about how he heard Paul tell the Blackbird/civil rights story and he'd never heard that! I asked him if he hadn't seen a Paul McCartney concert in the last 20 years as he tells that story every tour! Most fans just gush over him and how great he was etc. etc.
The only really truthful, realistic reviews will be in Beatlefan magazine. They will call Paul out, I bet, for doing Fuh You and Come On To Me. Will let you know what they say in the next issue.
Most professional reviews are done by fanboys/fangirls who are for the most part thrilled to be at show of a Beatle icon. If they were a real critic and not a fan, they would mention while his show is advertised spanning his entire career, there are only a handful of songs after 1980. They would also mention that his voice is much weaker on some songs and has aged. If these critics had ever seen Paul or done any research about his concerts, the "fireworks" would not "amaze" them during "Live And Let Die". Very few mention his excellent band musically and how they help carry Paul vocally. Also, these same "critics" don't seem to know he has told that same "Blackbird" for about 20 years -lol.
Finally, it is kind of funny. I have read reviews of other artists who have toured recently and it is refreshing to read the reviews when the "critics" are not in awe of the artist. I saw Bon Jovi with my wife and daughters awhile ago and the critics have blasted him about his vocals. While I thought he was not as good as he used to me vocally, John Bon Jovi was not as bad as some of the critics were writing. The recent Billy Joel show here in Charlotte the local "critics" praised his show mentioning he still sounds good vocally but that his set list becomes stale because he has not created new music since the 1990's.
Yankeefan...good points.
I guess you're getting ready for your Alaska vacation. We're leaving out of Newark NJ for Vancouver tomorrow.
Have a great trip. Let me know how the Dogsled excursion goes. We're thinking about doing this when we go to Alaska in September.
Thanks BJ, we leave for Seattle on Wednesday. Have a great time !!
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Hello everyone,
Having seen the setlists of the tour so far, we can say that this is probably it. Not much changes from concert to concert. I do think that Glastonbury is likely to have a different setlist; it is a festival with a special occasion after all... Paul has said that he doesn't know what they will do exactly, but they have some tricks up their sleeve. In the past we also saw him perform some alternative setlist on special occasions. What do you think? Is it likely that we will get the much desired changes in the setlist for Glasto?
Thanks!