Setlists
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He did "Venus & Mars/Rock show" again a bunch of years ago but sadly he cut it short for some dumb reason.
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Paul is 81 and I will bet everything I own he will not do a "nerd" show. My goodness, he can't even do one song from his latest album (McCartney III) in his Australian tour. Paul doing a "nerd" show would take a bunch of effort and does anybody imagine Paul taking the time to rehearse that type of show with his band. (I don't -lol). Then the simple facts of doing that type of show would mean Paul would have to play small venue because he is not going to sell out stadiums/arena with a "nerd" show. This means Paul would not make the "big time" money that he does on normal tours. Finally, Paul has big ego and loves the huge reaction to his Beatle hits. Can't imagine he would like to do show where he probably at best would get a little more than polite applause the entire show.
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"Find My Way", "Seize The Day" and "Slidin" are three very good songs (McCartney III) that would have been better choices than doing "Coming Up" again. Once again, Paul amazes me with his choices. "Egypt Station" has songs like "Who Cares", "I Don't Know" and "Dominoes" which would have been good selections also. I would have loved for him to do a song like "I Can Bet" off the album "New".
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@yankeefan2 Agree totally!
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I couldn't agree more with your choices. All of the songs you listed are great songs and "I Can Bet"is a terrific "Deep Cut". I still can't believe that the "Got Back" tour doesn't include any songs from McCartney 3. To make matters worse, the 2 Songs from his next latest Album (Egypt Station) Paul selects the 2 Worse Songs on that very good album.
You would think that Paul would want to prove that he's still writing very good songs. It's a shame that one of his adult kids aren't making the track list choices for their Dad. I know that the very astute critic Rob Sheffield (from Rolling Stone) wouldn't have liked this latest Setlist.What happened to the "defiant" Paul McCartney of 1976. That was a time when Paul was daring his critics to come to one of his concerts to see for themselves if he can give a good concert. Wings Over America proved to be one of the Best Concerts of the Decade. I think Paul and his Band only did a total of 5 Beatle songs on that tour.
Like Yankeff has said, I understand in the 2020's that Paul has to do the majority of songs from his Beatle days, but what does it say about an artist that refuses to do his "Best" recent songs. I think that "I Don't Know". Dominoes" Find My Way", "Slidin",
Seize the Day," and "Who Cares" are among Paul McCartney's Best Post Beatle Songs ever. How can he do a current Concert without doing any of his best new songs. -
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"What happened to the "defiant" Paul McCartney of 1976. That was a time when Paul was daring his critics to come to one of his concerts to see for themselves if he can give a good concert. Wings Over America proved to be one of the Best Concerts of the Decade. I think Paul and his Band only did a total of 5 Beatle songs on that tour."That was when Paul felt he had something to prove, and that ship has sailed a long time ago. I gave him credit during the 1989/90 tour when he played a bunch of songs from FITD and he actually opened the show with "Figure of Eight". In interview during that tour, Paul said he opened with that song because he wanted to show he was still a relevant artist. Wish he would have still felt that way years longer. The chance we had of Paul possibly doing more solo songs was the DR tour but that is when Paul started to veer towards a more Beatle heavy show and the rest is history - ha ha.
For the last decade Paul is very comfortable with doing mostly the same setlist with some tweaks and they are usually different Beatle songs. If you notice the pattern of Paul's tours lately, he goes to places he has never played before or countries he has not played in a long time (exp. Australia). This way he can play pretty much the same set list he has done for years but it is all very new to these audiences.
"I understand in the 2020's that Paul has to do the majority of songs from his Beatle days, but what does it say about an artist that refuses to do his "Best" recent songs. I think that "I Don't Know". Dominoes" Find My Way", "Slidin",
Seize the Day," and "Who Cares" are among Paul McCartney's Best Post Beatle Songs ever. How can he do a current Concert without doing any of his best new songs."My simple answer is that Paul does not feel these songs measure up to his past and the audience will be let down if he plays too many of them. While other artists embrace their solo career in concert after they left their famous band, Paul just throws a few solo songs in setlist to make it look like it is not a total "oldies" show. The other thing is that our idea of his best songs and his are totally different (exp. Fuh You, Temporary Secretary etc.).
"It's a shame that one of his adult kids aren't making the track list choices for their Dad. I know that the very astute critic Rob Sheffield (from Rolling Stone) wouldn't have liked this latest Setlist."
I don't know why but my gut feeling is Paul's adult kids probably love his current setlist and are very much into his Beatle music. If anybody knows something different, let me know -lol. The really frustrating thing is that the critics have really for the most part been very positive about Paul's new albums the last 20-25 years. You would think that would give Paul more confidence to play different songs from his last few albums. I always wonder if his band gets bored with the setlist, or they don't give a damn because they get paid pretty well.
I will wrap this up with nothing is really going to change. Paul is making gobs of money and getting rave reviews. In his eyes, why "rock the boat" -lol.
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@yankeefan2 Perfect answers!
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@yankeefan2 said in Setlists:
Paul is 81 and I will bet everything I own he will not do a "nerd" show. My goodness, he can't even do one song from his latest album (McCartney III) in his Australian tour. Paul doing a "nerd" show would take a bunch of effort and does anybody imagine Paul taking the time to rehearse that type of show with his band. (I don't -lol). Then the simple facts of doing that type of show would mean Paul would have to play small venue because he is not going to sell out stadiums/arena with a "nerd" show. This means Paul would not make the "big time" money that he does on normal tours. Finally, Paul has big ego and loves the huge reaction to his Beatle hits. Can't imagine he would like to do show where he probably at best would get a little more than polite applause the entire show.
Too true. He's not going to do a "nerd" tour. But, hey, he might do a one-off concert... And release it... But, yeah, the chances of us seeing it are as slim as next to nothing. But, who knows.... he could do it as a one-off special. 25-30 songs where he gets the input from the fans on his official forum.... I'd take that!.... Yeah, I know, I'm probably dreaming.
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Yes! I also suspect that he means something like that at best. At the end it's like Cavern Club (2018) or Pappy & Harriet's (2016) with a somewhat more daring setlist like the surpirse gig's 1991.
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This is not directed at you Nancy but if memory serves me correctly, it seems to me that some complaining the most about glacial speed changes to the set list did not see him when he put Got Back on the road here in US in the spring of 2022. There could be many legitimate reasons for not seeing him—-health, time, distance to show, monetary considerations. That said, making a case for set list changes is greatly undermined by not actually attending a show.
I missed 2019 due to looking at death in the hospital. I started off the countdown to seeing him last year hoping for things like Lavatory Lille, Dominoes, etc but ended up deciding I was thankful to be alive and healthy enough to make a show. Plus, at 81 Paul certainly doesn’t have to be there but is.
So Australia, enjoy whatever he plays. Surely the author of so many great songs has earned the right to sing Fuh You in my face even if I don’t like that song. He likes stepping out of the box of our expectations (witness Pepper, McCartney II, Fireman, etc.) and that undesirable song is simply another way of doing that.
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Well said, couldn't agree more
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GREAT video review of Macca In Melbourne!
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Two things I liked in that reviewed was that he would have loved Paul to do "Beware My Love" and he would have rather had any other "Egypt Station" song done instead of "Fuh You".
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@yankeefan2 OMG! I LOVE Beware My Love! A radio station here played an extended version for me when I requested that song...many years ago.
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That was a fantastic review, especially when he praised how he introduces so many songs with personal insight and makes each attendee feel he is hearing something special. Of course some criticize these little verbal asides as being repetitive, but as someone who once did a considerable amount of talking behind a microphone, you discover what an audience likes to hear and what reaches them, conveys knowledge and humor, and you keep using it and one’s confidence and effectiveness grows over time. This was very important to me, a confirmed introvert tasked with speaking in public, something I once feared greatly. Enjoy it Australia!!,,,,
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Great song and I don't think he ever did it again after the WOA tour.
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If Paul is not used to talking to an audience by now and can't just "Wing it" with his verbal asides than what can I say. Is it that hard to think of something different to say about the song "Blackbird" for example besides his "civil rights" story over and over again. I will give kudos to Paul for at least "talking" to an audience a lot more than most performers. Outside of Springsteen, I can't think of anybody who is "chattier" than Paul in concert.
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@john-mackintosh Thanks for clarifying that John. I haven’t seen him since 2019, but I’m in the minority in that I loved hearing him do Fuh You (still think he should have left the title For You) and Come On To Me (the end should have been left off though)
I will never go see him again though. I prefer to remember him when he could actually sing beautifully (in 2002 I was stunned a nearly 60 year old Paul sounded so wonderful!)
Also it’s the money/cost. I just had to move my mom for the 3rd time! First was Senior Living Facility in Sept. 2022, then Assisted Living in June 2023 and when she started escaping the facility, moved her Oct. 26th to Memory Care at a different A.L. facility which is $6401/mo.! They gave me a 7% discount because my dad lived there from June 2013 until he passed in Jan. 2016 at age just shy of 90 and he was an Army Vet. Mom doesn’t have much money left so may end up on Medicaid and have to move AGAIN to Life Care Center nursing home (which is one of the places she was escaping to from the last facility - it is right next door!) I’d laugh if I wasn’t crying so much.
P.S. They made me hire a 24/7 caregiver at $25/hour starting Oct. 14th and they worked until the 25th when I was able to secure her a room. I’m paying for that and it’s costing over $5000. Luckily I recently received $5000 from the county for a sewer easement!
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@yankeefan2 said in Setlists:
If Paul is not used to talking to an audience by now and can't just "Wing it" with his verbal asides than what can I say. Is it that hard to think of something different to say about the song "Blackbird" for example besides his "civil rights" story over and over again. I will give kudos to Paul for at least "talking" to an audience a lot more than most performers. Outside of Springsteen, I can't think of anybody who is "chattier" than Paul in concert.